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I wonder if the Long Rock upgrade will include re doubling the line from Marazion to Penzance. This would be very useful if there are to be extra services on the main line in the future plus some through trains from St.Ives to Penzance.
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Andy
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2014, 20:41:43 » |
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I wonder if the Long Rock upgrade will include re doubling the line from Marazion to Penzance. This would be very useful if there are to be extra services on the main line in the future plus some through trains from St.Ives to Penzance.
I was wondering exactly the same thing. I doubt it, somehow, but I hope at least the question of whether it would be beneficial/desirable was/is investigated. I also wonder what the plans are for the Ponsandane sidings. |
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I wonder if the Long Rock upgrade will include re doubling the line from Marazion to Penzance. This would be very useful if there are to be extra services on the main line in the future plus some through trains from St.Ives to Penzance.
Is it even wide enough with the depot in the way, certainly not wide enough at the level crossing into the beach car park at the end of the depot. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2014, 22:45:31 » |
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I wonder if the Long Rock upgrade will include re doubling the line from Marazion to Penzance. This would be very useful if there are to be extra services on the main line in the future plus some through trains from St.Ives to Penzance.
Is it even wide enough with the depot in the way, certainly not wide enough at the level crossing into the beach car park at the end of the depot. Some great diagrams of the original layout here. http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/cornwall-railway-gallery---1-main-line-penzance-to-redruth.html |
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Andy
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2014, 22:53:19 » |
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I don't think it is possible with the current layout, the main pinch points being those mentioned. I never quite understood why the yard was redesigned to preclude any reinstatement when allowing a bit more space would have left the option open.
It must be about 40 years since the singling happened. The early-mid 70s were very traumatic for this young lad, with the end of the Warships, the singling of the line, the demolition of the water tower and remodelling of the depot and then the end of the Westerns.
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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2014, 21:31:09 » |
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Well that's great news for the sleeper, looks most impressive, but what about the motive power?
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2014, 21:26:59 » |
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North Pole is the replacement for Old Oak Common as it's currently being refurbished in preparation for IEP▸ . I'm not sure what happens to the HEX fleet, is there room for their site to remain? Obviously the HEX fleet isn't going to be maintained at Long Rock anyway!
North Pole isn't really a replacement for Old Oak Common as it's technically not a Great Western depot but owned by Hitachi. I would imagine that if FGW▸ wanted to stable HSTs▸ or Turbo's at North Pole they would be charged by Hitachi. It is rumoured that HSTs may end up being stabled during the daytime at Reading. |
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Andy
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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2016, 14:09:59 » |
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Does anyone know if/where it's possible to see the plans for the new Long Rock depot expansion, work on which is currently underway? I see the old loading bay at Ponsandane has been demolished. Thanks.
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« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2016, 14:50:51 » |
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Thank you for this link. There isn't much room to play with there but I was rather hoping that provision would have been made where possible for a reinstatement of the double track to cope with the planned increase in frequency of services on the main line and the extension of more St Ives services to Penzance. In the "down" direction, now that the Mexico level crossing has been closed, double track could be easily extended to the Long Rock level crossing. |
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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2016, 15:30:34 » |
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Thank you for this link. There isn't much room to play with there but I was rather hoping that provision would have been made where possible for a reinstatement of the double track to cope with the planned increase in frequency of services on the main line and the extension of more St Ives services to Penzance. In the "down" direction, now that the Mexico level crossing has been closed, double track could be easily extended to the Long Rock level crossing. I couldn't agree more |
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2016, 17:23:02 » |
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I also wonder what the plans are for the Ponsandane sidings.
At Ponsandane sidings, New bank and Kings road have been disconnected and it looks like they're being filled in. Sandy bank (the one nearest the road) has been disconnected and it looks like that is being filled in too. Shoots, (the short siding) has been completely lifted and Old bank (the one nearest the running lines) has been relaid and reinstated. At the east end of the depot, Oil road (where the fuel tanks used to be berthed), Shunt spur and Walter's siding have all been disconnected, presumably in preparation for building the new shed. KM |
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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2016, 18:58:17 » |
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Thank you for posting that very detailed 'local knowledge' update here on the Coffee Shop forum, Kernowman.  |
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« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2016, 09:14:56 » |
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I also wonder what the plans are for the Ponsandane sidings.
At Ponsandane sidings, New bank and Kings road have been disconnected and it looks like they're being filled in. Sandy bank (the one nearest the road) has been disconnected and it looks like that is being filled in too. Shoots, (the short siding) has been completely lifted and Old bank (the one nearest the running lines) has been relaid and reinstated. At the east end of the depot, Oil road (where the fuel tanks used to be berthed), Shunt spur and Walter's siding have all been disconnected, presumably in preparation for building the new shed. KM Thank you, Kernowman. I hope that the disconnection of Oil road does not mean that no provision will be made for a future reinstatement of rail-borne fuel delivieries. If there is going to be an increase in frequency of services on the main line to Plymouth/beyond, it could follow that larger quantities of fuel will be delivered to Penzance. In this case, a train of fuel tankers should be more economically attractive than before. |
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