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Author Topic: Thatcham station - some work imminent (red/yellow lines on platform)  (Read 19964 times)
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« on: October 08, 2014, 09:13:22 »

I appreciate that this would be easier to answer if I had a picture but it's been pretty dark these last few mornings.

On platform 2 at Thatcham station some new markings on the platform have appeared. They consist of Red and Yellow lines which seemed to be centered on the shelter.

I've knocked up a pretty crude (well not even pretty!) picture showing from memory what they look like. Just curious to know whats going on

The drawing isn't to scale and the level crossing and footbridge would be on the left. For those unfamiliar with this station this is the Reading bound platform - Platform 1 is for trains to Newbury and the west.

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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2014, 12:58:52 »

Not been to the station this week, but will be tomorrow by the looks, so will have a look aswell.

Immediate thought is that maybe something on the platform needs to be moved/rebuilt due to upcoming overhead wiring infrastructure?

As an aside, apart from the bridge-raising we have seen, there seems to be very little activity (to a layman such as myself anyway) on the B&H (Berks and Hants - railway line from Reading to Taunton via Westbury) in connection with the wires going up. Bearing in mind that we are told this is going to be in place as far as Newbury by the end of 2016, should we be concerned?
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2014, 13:19:27 »

Not been to the station this week, but will be tomorrow by the looks, so will have a look aswell.

Immediate thought is that maybe something on the platform needs to be moved/rebuilt due to upcoming overhead wiring infrastructure?

As an aside, apart from the bridge-raising we have seen, there seems to be very little activity (to a layman such as myself anyway) on the B&H (Berks and Hants - railway line from Reading to Taunton via Westbury) in connection with the wires going up. Bearing in mind that we are told this is going to be in place as far as Newbury by the end of 2016, should we be concerned?

You may be right TC(resolve) but from memory they appear to run through the shelter. I will wait to see what you think.

Regarding general progress on "our" line I believe there has been some progress near Newbury station. Someone posted a picture in a "Newbury now and then" Facebook group which shows part of a support mast in place. I've certainly not noticed any progress like there has been between Reading and the start of OLE (Overhead Line Equipment, more often "OHLE") near Heathrow.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2014, 16:23:30 »

As an aside, apart from the bridge-raising we have seen, there seems to be very little activity (to a layman such as myself anyway) on the B&H (Berks and Hants - railway line from Reading to Taunton via Westbury) in connection with the wires going up. Bearing in mind that we are told this is going to be in place as far as Newbury by the end of 2016, should we be concerned?

No reason to be concerned, in my opinion.  Up in the North West of the country they went from nothing done to an electrified route for TPE (Trans Pennine Express) in about a year.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2014, 08:59:07 »

I managed to get a picture this morning...so live from Platform 2 here we are (this is obviously facing east)
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 10:18:54 »

The yellow markings look like positioning markers for a new shelter perhaps?
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 10:32:37 »

The yellow markings look like positioning markers for a new shelter perhaps?

In a way I hope not - it looks narrower than the existing one. We shall see!
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2014, 16:44:58 »

I did have a look at these markings yesterday morning (whilst waiting for the delayed 0903 THA-PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)  Roll Eyes) and I must admit I am none the wiser!

Like BB I don't think they mark out a new shelter - they mark out an area that is too long and narrow.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2014, 07:03:03 »

I have been led to believe that they are replacing the footbridge at Thatcham station starting this November due to clearance for electrification.

If this is the case I'm wondering if the new footbridge will have ramps rather than steps - because the footprint of the yellow lines is quite long compared with the existing bridge.

It also seems to go over the existing shelter on P2 so it if this is what is happening it will be interesting to see see it unfold.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2014, 08:56:09 »

In which case, yes, a ramp or lifts is a requirement. The former is cheaper. Lifts have to be monitored....are staff present all day?
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2014, 09:00:05 »

In which case, yes, a ramp or lifts is a requirement. The former is cheaper. Lifts have to be monitored....are staff present all day?

No - Thatcham is a relatively small station which is manned in the mornings weekdays and Saturday and not at all on Sundays.

I can't see lifts being put in - obviously this would require one each platform and as you say there is a cost/monitoring impact attached to that

Watch this space!
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2014, 09:55:46 »

In which case, yes, a ramp or lifts is a requirement. The former is cheaper. Lifts have to be monitored....are staff present all day?

There's no requirement to provide a ramp/lifts when a footbridge is being replaced, only if it is a new facility.

The extra space might well be because the new structure will be much higher than the existing one - the clearance needed at each side of the track might mean the current two stages of steps has to be made into one, therefore needing much more space.  I'd have thought a footbridge with ramps is unlikely, unless the design of the station and location of the station buildings make it the only sensible solution, given there is level access to all areas of the station using the level crossing.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2014, 10:01:45 »

In which case, yes, a ramp or lifts is a requirement. The former is cheaper. Lifts have to be monitored....are staff present all day?

There's no requirement to provide a ramp/lifts when a footbridge is being replaced, only if it is a new facility.

I think you're wrong....any new build needs to reflect HSE (Health and Safety Executive) regulations. If they simply renovated, I agree with you, but new build needs to reflect current regulations.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2014, 10:08:09 »

Tilehurst has recently been completely replaced and rebuilt in a new location on the station without any ramps.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2014, 10:08:55 »

In which case, yes, a ramp or lifts is a requirement. The former is cheaper. Lifts have to be monitored....are staff present all day?

There's no requirement to provide a ramp/lifts when a footbridge is being replaced, only if it is a new facility.

I think you're wrong....any new build needs to reflect HSE (Health and Safety Executive) regulations. If they simply renovated, I agree with you, but new build needs to reflect current regulations.

Wasn't the footbridge at Aldermaston replaced in the last year or so. I know some of the road bridges in the area were.

I don't remember that bridge having ramps but could be mistaken.
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