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« Reply #75 on: January 24, 2008, 21:57:16 » |
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I'm pretty sure it's profit first, safety second if and when they can get away with it.
Utter nonsence  You got a bad memory? Remember the Southall Crash? Do you really remeber it? If so, which company was involved carrying passengers? (No one else answer, I want Smokey to answer) Great Western Trains GWT part owned by First Group forunner of FGW▸ (same Management). Train Started journey WITH Defective AWS▸ , against Railway Group Standards |
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« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2008, 22:01:38 » |
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I'm pretty sure it's profit first, safety second if and when they can get away with it.
Utter nonsence You got a bad memory? Remember the Southall Crash? Do you really remeber it? If so, which company was involved carrying passengers? (No one else answer, I want Smokey to answer) Great Western Trains GWT part owned by First Group forunner of FGW▸ (same Management). Train Started journey WITH Defective AWS▸ , against Railway Group Standards First Group had not taken over the running of Great Western by then. It was still operated by Great Western Trains ltd. |
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« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2008, 09:42:16 » |
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Earlier in this thread Willc wondered what would happen if SDO▸ failed on the cotswold line...well it did this morning. The 0542 Hereford
ran fast between Evesham and Oxford due to an SDO equipment failure (according to TM‡ on later train). Train did not stop at any short platform stations.
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« Reply #78 on: February 27, 2008, 09:46:12 » |
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Earlier in this thread Willc wondered what would happen if SDO▸ failed on the cotswold line...well it did this morning. The 0542 Hereford
ran fast between Evesham and Oxford due to an SDO equipment failure (according to TM‡ on later train). Train did not stop at any short platform stations.
Damn And I got the 0545 WOS» cos I had to be in early! If the 0632 ran fast to oxford it would have made me early enough to get in! |
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« Reply #79 on: February 27, 2008, 09:53:37 » |
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It was still late through Chalrbury....assume it failed somewhere near Evesham and they spent time getting it working
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« Reply #80 on: February 27, 2008, 13:27:08 » |
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Train did not stop at any short platform stations. A post on the Charlbury commuter blog suggests that passengers did get on this train at Moreton-in-Marsh, where it had to stop so the driver could hand the single-line token to the signaller. Going the other way, a no- SDO▸ train could pull up short at Moreton signalbox, instead of the driver using the token machine in a cabinet at the end of the platform. Anyway, there already appears to be a ready-made exception to the rule that 'thou shalt not board an HST▸ with an SDO fault at a short platform'. |
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« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2008, 13:45:47 » |
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Does SDO▸ work on the hybrid sets of refurbished carriages with an old buffet in the middle?  |
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« Reply #82 on: February 27, 2008, 14:23:33 » |
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Does SDO▸ work on the hybrid sets of refurbished carriages with an old buffet in the middle? Of course it does...SDO is only a wiring modification to the door control panels |
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All postings reflect my own personal views and opinions and are not intended to be, nor should be taken as official statements of first great western or first group policy
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« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2008, 23:58:19 » |
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« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2008, 00:02:44 » |
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All well and good - but as an SC passenger - why did he have a seat in FC‡ without paying the surcharge I bet there were FC passengers who were passed on that train (I know there are) who did not get a discount or reduction without jumping through hoops to get it! Everyone between Evesham and Oxford were in the same boat - why do SC get a chance to be upgraded for nothing? |
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« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2008, 07:41:26 » |
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What does this thread have to do with whether people get upgraded to first class for free? You already started a whole new thread on it the other day.
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« Reply #86 on: February 28, 2008, 07:48:33 » |
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What does this thread have to do with whether people get upgraded to first class for free? You already started a whole new thread on it the other day.
Mookiemoo was referring to the following quote from the Train Fellow, who had to wait for the next train because his usual train didnt stop at Kingham due to the SDO▸ problem (link below) : http://trainfellows.blogspot.com/2008/02/selective-door-opening-almighty-cock-up.htmlTo add insult to serious delay, I couldn't get a seat until I persuaded the Train Manager (Rog I think) that there were actually no seats and that I should be allowed into 1st class where I was set upon my revenue inspection staff (what a great title). |
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« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2008, 07:59:56 » |
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Yes I know, I read it. The Train Fellow asked for an upgrade and was given one, as is allowed under the NRCC. I was just questioning why it was necessary to drag out the "keep out of my first class" soapbox on another thread when there's a perfectly adequate one already running.  |
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« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2008, 08:05:00 » |
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Yes I know, I read it. The Train Fellow asked for an upgrade and was given one, as is allowed under the NRCC. I was just questioning why it was necessary to drag out the "keep out of my first class" soapbox on another thread when there's a perfectly adequate one already running. For the benefit of forum readers, here is a link to it. http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=1850.msg13338#msg13338 |
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« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2008, 10:31:53 » |
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What does this thread have to do with whether people get upgraded to first class for free? You already started a whole new thread on it the other day.
Mookiemoo was referring to the following quote from the Train Fellow, who had to wait for the next train because his usual train didnt stop at Kingham due to the SDO▸ problem (link below) : http://trainfellows.blogspot.com/2008/02/selective-door-opening-almighty-cock-up.htmlTo add insult to serious delay, I couldn't get a seat until I persuaded the Train Manager (Rog I think) that there were actually no seats and that I should be allowed into 1st class where I was set upon my revenue inspection staff (what a great title). And that quote implies he was intending to sit without paying the surcharge until the revenue inspectors came on and did their job |
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