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« Reply #540 on: June 09, 2017, 01:31:44 PM »

The route to platform 2 is signalled from 569 signal with an 'X' in a theatre box and no junction indicator.  As it's for reversing movements only I guess they wanted to make it distinctive.  Platforms 3,4 and 5 are indicated by the more standard Junction indicators 4,5 and 6.
Just to add to this information posted by II.  An 'X' indication usually applies to a limit of shunt or nominally wrong direction movement exit signal.

And I suppose I should've used the correct terminology of Standard Route Indicator instead of the rather old fashioned theatre box!  Wink
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« Reply #541 on: June 09, 2017, 04:12:37 PM »

The route to platform 2 is signalled from 569 signal with an 'X' in a theatre box and no junction indicator.  As it's for reversing movements only I guess they wanted to make it distinctive.  Platforms 3,4 and 5 are indicated by the more standard Junction indicators 4,5 and 6.
Just to add to this information posted by II.  An 'X' indication usually applies to a limit of shunt or nominally wrong direction movement exit signal.

And I suppose I should've used the correct terminology of Standard Route Indicator instead of the rather old fashioned theatre box!  Wink

....CfN is going to hate me, but two more abbreviations to add to the Acronyms and other Abbreviations page Tongue:

MARI = Miniature Alphanumeric Route Indicator

SARI = Standard Alphanumeric Route Indicator

A MARI is usually associated with a shunting signal or with subsidiary aspects (e.g. Calling On) on a main running signal

A SARI is usually associated with a main running aspect on a main signal

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« Reply #542 on: June 09, 2017, 06:28:11 PM »

With regards to the signal we were discussing, there's a MARI on the signal adjacent to that one with it's SARI.
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« Reply #543 on: June 09, 2017, 10:41:11 PM »

All Slough/Maidenhead 387s reached their destination within the PPM this morning, indeed all were either early or on time apart from the 09:09 PAD-SLO which arrived three minutes late.

A good evening peak as well - 18:18 MAI-PAD arriving 3 minutes late was the worst performer.
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« Reply #544 on: June 09, 2017, 10:45:19 PM »


....CfN is going to hate me, but two more abbreviations to add to the Acronyms and other Abbreviations page Tongue:


What do you mean, "... is going to ..."  Shocked Roll Eyes Tongue


On a slightly more serious note, I have indeed added those two new abbreviations to the Coffee Shop forum's list - and I really do welcome any such additions, from any of our members.  Wink

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« Reply #545 on: June 12, 2017, 11:09:45 PM »

All Slough/Maidenhead 387s reached their destination within the PPM this morning, indeed all were either early or on time apart from the 09:09 PAD-SLO which arrived three minutes late.

All pretty good today in the morning and evening peak.  09:09 PAD-SLO arrived 5 minutes late after being delayed by a late running connect between Ealing and Hayes, and two morning services were short formed as only a 4-car, but that was sorted by the evening.  All others made the PPM of less than 5 minutes late, with several arriving early again.
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« Reply #546 on: June 14, 2017, 12:50:02 AM »

The 18:42 PAD-MAI arrived 8 mins late this evening, and the 09:09 PAD-SLO was 5 minutes late again, otherwise all made charter PPM again and were 8-cars as booked.

Perhaps the warmer weather will cause a few more problems later in the week, though I'm jetting off away for a few days so will stop monitoring them.
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« Reply #547 on: June 14, 2017, 01:09:26 AM »

Enjoy your holiday, IndustryInsider!  Wink Cheesy Grin

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« Reply #548 on: June 15, 2017, 07:44:38 AM »

The 7.33 is attracting a few more people but is still relatively empty most days (if it's 8 carriages) and any "newbies" that get on all have the same slightly bemused look on their faces when confronted with so many empty seats to chose from  Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #549 on: June 15, 2017, 12:14:44 PM »

I'm temporarily having to work more frequently in Ealing and my usual morning commute now from TWY is to change at MAI and wait for the 0656 electric stopper. I sit in the rear half of the rearmost car and there doesn't ever seem to be more than 3 or 4 other passengers in that part. The rearmost car only has doors opening at MAI, TAP and EAL  due to short platforms so it's a nice quiet environment.

Incidentally I've noticed that both doors of the 8th car seem to be on the platform at Burnham so I don't know why they're cut out for that particular station?

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« Reply #550 on: July 03, 2017, 05:10:21 PM »

The next batch of 387 worked services commenced today.

Units 387132, 133, 135, 136, 137, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 146, 147, 149, 150 and 151 all out and about this evening covering the required eight daily 8-car diagrams now needed.

Looking more and more like an electric suburban railway in the peaks now!
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« Reply #551 on: July 04, 2017, 11:39:58 AM »

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I thought it'd be useful to provide a summary of the trains due to be formed by Class 387s coming from further afield than Hayes & Harlington from 22nd May onwards:

Services towards London Paddington:
2P14, 06:56 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Taplow (06:59), Burnham (07:02), Slough (07:07), Langley (07:11), Iver (07:14), West Drayton (07:18), Hayes & Harlington (07:23), Southall (07:27), Ealing Broadway (07:33) and London Paddington (07:46).
1P93, 07:33 Maidenhead to Paddington, non-stop to London Paddington (08:04).
1P94, 07:42 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Taplow (07:45), Slough (07:51) and London Paddington (08:21).
2P25, 08:29 Slough to Paddington, calling Langley (08:32), West Drayton (08:39), Hayes & Harlington (08:43), Southall (08:47), Ealing Broadway (08:53) and London Paddington (09:04).
1P97, 08:42 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Taplow (08:46), Slough (08:51), Southall (09:01) and London Paddington (09:22).
2P32, 09:07 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Slough (09:14), West Drayton (09:21), Hayes & Harlington (09:28), Southall (09:32), Ealing Broadway (09:38) and London Paddington (09:49).
1P98, 09:43 Slough to Paddington, non-stop to London Paddington (10:13).
2P73, 18:18 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Slough (18:25), Langley (18:29), Iver (18:32), West Drayton (18:37), Hayes & Harlington (18:41), Ealing Broadway (18:48) and London Paddington (18:59).

Services from London Paddington:
2S80, 09:09 Paddington to Slough, non-stop to Slough (09:34).
1N40, 16:09 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Slough (16:34) and Maidenhead (16:42).
1N42, 16:42 Paddington to Maidenhead, non-stop to Maidenhead (17:13).
2D55, 17:14 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (17:23), Hayes & Harlington (17:29), West Drayton (17:34), Langley (17:41), Slough (17:46), Burnham (17:51), and Maidenhead (18:05).
1N44, 17:42 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Slough (18:04), and Maidenhead (18:13).
1N52, 18:42 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Slough (19:04), and Maidenhead (19:14).
1N62, 19:36 Paddington to Maidenhead, non-stop to Maidenhead (20:00).

Here's a list of the 387 services from this week which are in addition to the ones that started in May listed above:

Services towards Paddington:
2P06, 05:52 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Slough (06:00), Hayes & Harlington (06:10), Ealing Broadway (06:19), and Paddington (06:31).
2P09, 06:21 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Taplow (06:23), Burnham (06:26), Slough (06:31), Langley (06:35), West Drayton (06:40), Hayes & Harlington (06:46), Ealing Broadway (06:52), and Paddington (07:03).
2P17, 07:17 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Burnham (07:21), Slough (07:27), Langley (07:31), West Drayton (07:36), Ealing Broadway (07:50), and Paddington (08:03).
2P21, 07:51 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Taplow (07:55), Burnham (07:58), Slough (08:03), West Drayton (08:10), Hayes & Harlington (08:15), Ealing Broadway (08:22), and Paddington (08:37).
2P28, 08:26 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Taplow (08:28), Burnham (08:31), Slough (08:40), Langley (08:42), Iver (08:47), West Drayton (08:51), Hayes & Harlington (08:54), Ealing Broadway (09:04), and Paddington (09:16).
2P35, 09:34 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Taplow (09:38), Burnham (09:41), Slough (09:46), West Drayton (09:53), Hayes & Harlington (09:58), Southall (10:02), Ealing Broadway (10:09), and Paddington (10:19).
2P61, 16:02 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Taplow (16:06), Burnham (16:09), Slough (16:14), West Drayton (16:21), Hayes & Harlington (16:26), Ealing Broadway (16:33), and Paddington (16:49).
2P65, 17:05 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Taplow (17:07), Burnham (17:10), Slough (17:14), Langley (17:18), Iver (17:20), West Drayton (17:24), Hayes & Harlington (17:29), Ealing Broadway (17:37), and Paddington (17:46).
2P71, 18:08 Maidenhead to Paddington, calling Slough (18:15), Hayes & Harlington (18:23), Southall (18:28), Ealing Broadway (18:32), and Paddington (18:43).

Service from Paddington:
2D11, 06:42 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (06:50), Southall (06:57), Hayes & Harlington (07:01), West Drayton (07:05), Iver (07:08), Langley (07:12), Slough (07:16), Burnham (07:20), Taplow (07:24), and Maidenhead (07:28).
2D13, 07:12 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (07:20), Southall (07:25), Hayes & Harlington (07:29), West Drayton (07:33), Iver (07:36), Langley (07:40), Slough (07:44), Burnham (07:48), Taplow (07:52), and Maidenhead (07:56).
2D17, 08:12 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (08:20), Southall (08:26), Hayes & Harlington (08:30), West Drayton (08:34), Slough (08:41), Burnham (08:45), Taplow (08:49), and Maidenhead (08:54).
2D22, 08:55 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (09:03), Southall (09:08), Hayes & Harlington (09:12), West Drayton (09:16), Iver (09:19), Langley (09:24), Slough (09:27) and Maidenhead (09:35).
2D24, 09:27 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (09:35), Hayes & Harlington (09:41), West Drayton (09:45), Iver (09:48), Langley (09:53), Slough (09:56), and Maidenhead (10:04).
2D54, 16:58 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (17:06), Hayes & Harlington (17:15), West Drayton (17:20), Iver (17:24), Langley (17:28), Slough (17:31), Burnham (17:37), and Maidenhead (17:44).
2D61, 17:57 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (18:06), Southall (18:10), Hayes & Harlington (18:14), West Drayton (18:20), Iver (18:22), Langley (18:27), Slough (18:31), Burnham (18:36), Taplow (18:40), and Maidenhead (18:43).
1N50, 18:10 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Slough (18:35), Taplow (18:43), and Maidenhead (18:48).
2D71, 18:57 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (19:04), Southall (19:11), Hayes & Harlington (19:15), West Drayton (19:20), Iver (19:23), Langley (19:27), Slough (19:32), Burnham (19:37), Taplow (19:40), and Maidenhead (19:44).
2D73, 19:12 Paddington to Maidenhead, calling Ealing Broadway (19:20), Hayes & Harlington (19:28), West Drayton (19:33), Slough (19:39), Burnham (19:44), Taplow (19:47), and Maidenhead (19:53).

I think that's all of them...  Wink
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« Reply #552 on: July 04, 2017, 12:45:33 PM »

The 19:12 from Paddington started in May
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« Reply #553 on: July 04, 2017, 12:46:54 PM »

Ah, yes - I knew I'd missed one from my original list and that must've been it.
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« Reply #554 on: July 04, 2017, 09:38:56 PM »

The first two mornings of the 7.17 MAI to PAD being an EMU and starting at Maidenhead it's left quite late.. On Monday it left just ahead of the 7.23 departure and held it up.. This morning it left after the 7.23.. It departs from platform 5 and not sure if it's teething trouble or may be a bigger issue. Time will tell..

I am now trying to use the EMUS for both journeys each day even though the non stop  EMU services are a bit slower than the non-stop HSTs it's so worth it for the pleasant journey. Trains are generally still only about a quarter or less full.. People are gradually migrating off the other packed services from Maidenhead but it's a slow process it seems..
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