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Author Topic: Problems with the Night Riviera sleeper - December 2014 onwards  (Read 171328 times)
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« Reply #630 on: January 23, 2019, 08:12:20 am »

From The Scotsman ... trials start of the new trains on the other UK Sleeper service

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Delayed new Caledonian Sleeper carriages completed their first trial run to London today.

Introduction of the 100 million fleet, which will include berths with en suite showers and double beds, has been postponed for more than a year to "late May".
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« Reply #631 on: February 11, 2019, 12:41:18 am »

Tonight's (10th/11th February 2019) up Sleeper from Plymouth to Paddington (no service from Cornwall due to engineering work) has been replaced by a HST due to Class 57 loco failure.

Gotta feel sorry for those who'd booked a berth.
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« Reply #632 on: February 28, 2019, 07:32:13 am »

21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03


27/02/19 21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03 is being delayed between Exeter St Davids and Reading and is now expected to be 150 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
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« Reply #633 on: February 28, 2019, 10:55:11 am »

It eventually arrived at the much more civilised time of 07:40.  The log makes interesting reading on what action was taken after the fault developed:

02:11 Exmouth Junction signaller advises he has stopped 1A40 (21:45 Penzance to Paddington) after the signaller noticed sparks coming from underneath the loco (57602) as the train passed the signal box. The driver was contacted via the GSM-R and he has brought his train to a stand approaching signal EJ4.

02:17 Exmouth Junction signaller advises the driver working 1A40 has had a look around the loco with nothing seen to be causing the sparks. The train is now on the move towards Pinhoe with the Guard and Travelling Fitter looking out of the train windows.

02:50 Fitter on board 1A40 advises that there has been some conduit arcing on 57602 involving a cable to the battery boxes. Fitter advised by Maintrol that the train must go forward to clear the single line at Chard Jn. Therefore, it has been a greed with the driver that 1A40 will proceed at maximum 40mph to Westbury. The pilot loco at Reading, 57605, has a Paddington driver with it, and it will be dispatched post haste as 0A40 to Westbury where it will be coupled to 1A40 and double-headed from Westbury to Reading. 57602 will then be dragged dead in tow to Reading.

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« Reply #634 on: February 28, 2019, 11:03:47 am »

I wonder what was used to get the empty stock back to Reading Train Care Depot after it reached Paddington.   GWR aren't made of Class 57s as we know.
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« Reply #635 on: February 28, 2019, 11:21:04 am »

Interesting that the signaller observed sparks coming from the locomotive and stopped the train for examination.

Presumably faults like this will go largely unnoticed when conventional signal boxes are replaced by computerised work stations in distant regional control centers.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #636 on: February 28, 2019, 11:24:56 am »

Yes, its certainly extra pairs of eyes that can be useful, though of course for lots of routes its many years since a box every few miles kept an eye.
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« Reply #637 on: April 03, 2019, 07:40:41 am »

https://www.journeycheck.com/greatwesternrailway/

23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55
02/04/19 23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55 was terminated at Par.
It will no longer call at St Austell, Truro, Redruth, Camborne, Hayle, St Erth and Penzance.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:03/04/2019 07:04
Due   Station   Status
23:45   London Paddington   23:45
00:46   Reading   00:46
02:38   Taunton   02:38
04:11   Exeter St Davids   04:11
04:32   Newton Abbot   04:32
05:49   Plymouth   05:49
06:15   Liskeard   06:15
06:29   Bodmin Parkway   06:29
06:35   Lostwithiel   06:35
06:43   Par   06:43
06:52   St Austell   Not Stopping
07:10   Truro   Not Stopping
07:23   Redruth   Not Stopping
07:31   Camborne   Not Stopping
07:40   Hayle   Not Stopping
07:45   St Erth   Not Stopping
07:55   Penzance   Not Stopping

From OTT http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C58037/2019-04-02
It doesn't seemed to have arrived at Par!
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« Reply #638 on: April 03, 2019, 09:39:18 am »

https://www.journeycheck.com/greatwesternrailway/

23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55
02/04/19 23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55 was terminated at Par.
It will no longer call at St Austell, Truro, Redruth, Camborne, Hayle, St Erth and Penzance.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:03/04/2019 07:04
Due   Station   Status
23:45   London Paddington   23:45
00:46   Reading   00:46
02:38   Taunton   02:38
04:11   Exeter St Davids   04:11
04:32   Newton Abbot   04:32
05:49   Plymouth   05:49
06:15   Liskeard   06:15
06:29   Bodmin Parkway   06:29
06:35   Lostwithiel   06:35
06:43   Par   06:43
06:52   St Austell   Not Stopping
07:10   Truro   Not Stopping
07:23   Redruth   Not Stopping
07:31   Camborne   Not Stopping
07:40   Hayle   Not Stopping
07:45   St Erth   Not Stopping
07:55   Penzance   Not Stopping

From OTT http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C58037/2019-04-02
It doesn't seemed to have arrived at Par!

Set off Hot Axle Detector.      Terminated Par 46 Late and shunted into Chapel Sdg
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« Reply #639 on: April 03, 2019, 02:07:05 pm »

21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:12
21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:12 will be started from Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Penzance, St Erth, Camborne, Redruth, Truro, St Austell, Par, Bodmin Parkway and Liskeard.
It will be delayed at Plymouth and is expected to be 15 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train.
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Passengers travelling from Stations in Cornwall are advised to board the 22:10 Cross Country service from Penzance to Plymouth. The Night Riviera will be held for Passengers transferring. Ticket acceptance has been agreed.
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« Reply #640 on: April 03, 2019, 02:53:30 pm »

A little better than not running the sleeper at all, but still very unsatisfactory.
The whole point of utilising a sleeper train is to sleep, for the whole journey or for whatever part of that journey that one desires.

A connecting service that requires not sleeping for part of the journey is a powerful dis-incentive. As with starting the sleeper at Reading.

A cynic might suspect that GWR are trying to abolish the sleeper. And yes I know that it is a franchise requirement, but that can altered or negotiated away, especially after a carefully managed survey that shows that most passengers would prefer something else.

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« Reply #641 on: April 03, 2019, 03:01:59 pm »

Or it could just be that the engine failure on 57604 on the way down this morning has something to do with it.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #642 on: April 03, 2019, 03:05:13 pm »

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Err, haven't they just spent quite a bit of money on it? Isn't capacity increasing?

There's a detailed thread on the RailUK Forum suggesting that both of the above are the case.
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« Reply #643 on: April 03, 2019, 03:05:42 pm »

Having just refurbished the fleet and opened sleeper lounges in Truro and Penzance I doubt the sleeper service is going to be stopped anytime soon.

I also understand GWR hope to get some of the redundant sleeper coaches from the Caledonian service so the trains can be longer as they are frequently fully booked.
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« Reply #644 on: April 03, 2019, 03:06:25 pm »

Flybe now fly NQY-LHR daily. A 1 hr 20 min flight landing at 0830.....the convenience & speed of this option will hoover up a lot of Cornish customers who previously may have used the sleeper. Problems like this one will drive even more people away from the train & onto the plane
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