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The fully licensed bar bit always amuses me.... at 8am???
Why is it always decribed as fully licenced? What is a partly licenced bar? Isnt the difference about whether you can drink on or off the premises. So by being fully licenced they can sell you alcohol and you can drink it in the buffet/on the train and take it with you. Whilst you can restricted licences that only allow off sales or consumption on the premises sounds plausible - thanks |
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« Reply #151 on: June 28, 2009, 19:16:40 » |
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prehaps you can enlighten us on the needlless announcments???
0624 from WOS» - announcing where to get off at any station up to OXF» - NO ONE GETS OFF - and if they do they are regulars! 60% of the time - the TM‡ doesnt do any verbal anmouncements - then you get the jobsworths who do - its like day and night With the stops on the cotswolds line - by the time they have finished (if they do the whole script including the braille safety leaflets) they have a pause for breath before they are announcing which stop we're approaching and where to get off The problem is, is that the announcements are mandatory, not discretionary, basically to comply with government regulations and corporate safety standards. If the staff do not make these announcements, and are reported not doing so, it is highly likely they will face disciplinary proceedings. The 'jobsworths' as you put them, probably don't want formal action taken against them, especially in the current climate with redundancies, where even minor blemishes on someone's record can be detrimental, which I think is understandable. However from the viewpoint of the travelling public, I can see that such announcements only serve to annoy them, and personally actually agree with you that half the stuff is largely spurious. I don't like to hear half the nonsense when I travel either. The solution, I don't know, but presumably it would involve passenger action groups raising the issue with the companies and perhaps MPs▸ . |
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« Reply #152 on: June 28, 2009, 19:21:14 » |
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Again - I have noise canceling headphones - bet I could watch terminator next to you and you woldnt know
Ummmm ! Noise canceling headphones are designed to reduce the effects of external noise on the listener not the other way round ! In theory this should allow the wearer to reduce the volume they are listening at, but there is little evidence to support this. True noise canceling headphones also need to enclose the ear completely, most personal audio equipment use in-ear devices which are not - despite what they claim - noise canceling ! mine are senheiser external old fashioned earphones - on those occasions I listen to music. Because I cant hear the back ground noise, I dont have to have the volume as high I do have in ear ones but they are for use in the office where I want to listen to music/radio but also need to be aware if someone wants to talk to me. I can have one earphone only in |
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #153 on: June 28, 2009, 20:15:53 » |
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mine are senheiser external old fashioned earphones
The additional problem with headphones is that people think they will get the same performance (either sound quality or noise cancelling/reduction) from a pair costing ^1, in the local pound shop, which looks almost the same as a pair of Sennheisers at ^200, or more. I did some trials for the MoD on their equipment some years ago - very nice if you can afford it ! |
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« Reply #154 on: June 28, 2009, 20:42:16 » |
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Think mine were 160 - bought mainly for flights not the train! but they've lasted now about five years!
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #155 on: December 15, 2009, 11:37:42 » |
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Several months on from the new guidance leaflets being placed in the quiet coach and they are still being contradicted by the TM‡'s announcements.
Card says iPods (etc.) can be used at a non-obtrusive level yet many announcements still using the structured announcement including the phrase '...please do not use mobile phones or personal stereos in this carriage'. Whatever your views on listening to music quietly in the quiet carriage, can we please have a consistent message!?
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To view my GWML▸ Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/ |
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« Reply #156 on: December 29, 2009, 10:06:48 » |
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To my mind mobile phone noise is much worse than most other noise of the same volume* so whilst quite carriages would ideally be quiet in all respects, I think FGW▸ is right to focus more on mobile phone noise because I suspect that that is what most of its complaints from customers are about. Remember quite carriages were only introduced after mobiles came into existance.
*not sure why this is the case but certainly true of me. Maybe it is cos I can't help evesdropping on a phone call whereas other sound can more easily beome background.
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« Reply #157 on: December 29, 2009, 11:14:05 » |
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There was a lot to be said of the old coaches with single compartments and sliding doors. If it was too bright you could even take the bulbs out (alledgedly). Not that I remember them  . |
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« Reply #158 on: December 29, 2009, 17:05:08 » |
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Mobile calls are irritating for many reasons:
*People always seem to talk louder than normal - perhaps because the signal is worse.
*They always start off with "I'm on the train...".
*Hearing just one side of a conversation is distracting than hearing a normal conversation.
*The ringtone, text noises and other "sounds" that modern wacky phones make.
That's why phones should be switched OFF in the Quiet Zone, and passengers should use them in silent mode if possible in other carriages, preferably going to the vestibules to make and receive calls. I certainly hate the idea of other people listening to me on the phone, plus I don't want to disturb/ annoy them, so I always make an effort to leave the passenger saloon. Obviously, if the train is very busy, you can't do this. But you get some people who use phones with no consideration to others.
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« Reply #159 on: December 29, 2009, 17:43:17 » |
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I often use my phone in the quiet carriage to make (free) texts, emitting no noise apart from the tapping of keys. I can't see any problem in this to be honest. I was on a train the other week where a BBC» Spotlight news reporter ranted at somebody for using their phone in the quiet carriage.  |
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« Reply #160 on: December 29, 2009, 17:45:48 » |
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French trains don't allow mobiles in any carriage- there are stickers eveywhere reminding you of this- it's in the culture to go out to the vestibules to use a phone, much as it was to smoke until the complete ban.
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« Reply #161 on: December 29, 2009, 19:41:17 » |
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French trains don't allow mobiles in any carriage- there are stickers eveywhere reminding you of this- it's in the culture to go out to the vestibules to use a phone, much as it was to smoke until the complete ban.
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« Reply #162 on: December 29, 2009, 22:55:26 » |
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French trains don't allow mobiles in any carriage- there are stickers eveywhere reminding you of this- it's in the culture to go out to the vestibules to use a phone, much as it was to smoke until the complete ban.
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« Reply #163 on: December 30, 2009, 00:57:30 » |
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I was on a train the other week where a BBC» Spotlight news reporter ranted at somebody for using their phone in the quiet carriage. Hopefully, they ranted in subtitles only? |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #164 on: December 31, 2009, 19:10:55 » |
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A couple of quips that have proved effective in the quiet coach:
(Mobiles) "Did you know that shouting into your 'phone damages the battery?"
(Stereos) " Could you either turn that thing down so we can't hear it or up enough so we can all enjoy it with you?"
Recalcitrants can be reminded of the fine they'll receive from the guard, if called. (Except there isn't one!)
Happy new year,
OTC
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