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« on: January 30, 2015, 10:56:56 » |
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After many a false dawn over the years, preliminary work has now started on the Banbury resignalling project which will mean the closure of Banbury North and South signalboxes (control transferred to the West Midlands Signalling Centre), replacement of the many semaphore signals with modern colour light signalling (presumably based on axle counters) and a modified track layout that, AIUI▸ , includes removal of the bay platform and widening of the current platform 3 to create a new through platform along the formation of the current 'Up Goods Loop'. Time to get down there quick if you want to record the absolute block signalling still in operation at this busy main line location! http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/infrastructure/single-view/view/siemens-starts-work-on-banbury-resignalling.html |
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ChrisB
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2015, 11:09:47 » |
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First closures over the Mayday bank holiday I understand.
Yes, platform 4 will become a full length up platform! A number of the stabling lines are going too, to preserve the up goods loop, and hence why Chiltern want to develop a new depot at Banbury, south of the south signal box.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2015, 11:31:04 » |
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That all makes sense in providing a nice flexible layout. Hopefully bi-directional signalling will be provided to all platforms and Platform 1 will also be modified to increase the line speed as the current 15mph limit is quite restrictive. If anyone has any access to maps and plans then please post them here as I've been unable to source any as yet.
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2015, 12:06:12 » |
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I'm hoping to set up a meeting with an NR» LNWR▸ manager (who are in Birmingham Mailbox I believe) sometime soon, and those are something I'm going to try for, certainly
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2015, 18:52:33 » |
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I'm being told that the layout on those screens in the photo in this article is the finished layout of the project....does it look like Banbury? I'm not sure..... No, it's not - for two reasons. 1. The 20012011 calendar on the desk - unless NR» do have a time machine that works forwards (we all known they have one that goes the other way). 2. Because it's nothing like the right layout - in fact, it's the Crewe and Stockport line (Cheadle Hulme lower right)! |
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2015, 21:59:46 » |
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No, it's not - for two reasons.
1. The 2001 calendar on the desk ...
It's actually 2011.    |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2015, 22:28:42 » |
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No, it's not - for two reasons.
1. The 2001 calendar on the desk ...
It's actually 2011. Oops. Must have been looking through the wrong end of my own time machine. Obviously I wasn't suggesting that the time machine NR» don't have has that kind of range. |
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2015, 09:54:13 » |
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First closures over the Mayday bank holiday I understand.
Yes, platform 4 will become a full length up platform! No it isn't apparently - only the part of the island at the north end (beyond the staircase/witing enclosure will become a platform - through, yes, but not full length, just 5 cars. |
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2015, 10:41:31 » |
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through, yes, but not full length, just 5 cars.
Why
Graham has just posted in another thread that by 2045 there will be double or more the number of passengers.
So why spoil the ship for hapeth of tar! It's something we seem very good at in this country.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2015, 10:43:44 » |
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No money to build the island out behind the waiting area/staircase, which if you know the station, their boundary walls are actually the edge of the island
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2015, 11:17:27 » |
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Yes, does seem a slightly short-sighted decision, but passive provision is being made to extend it as and when needed - which may well be sooner rather than later. More details of the new layout at the station here: http://www.townend.me/files/banbury.pdfAnd details of the new depot here: http://npa.cherwell.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/08154090.pdfAs can be seen from the map, the South Box will get demolished shortly after closing next year, to allow for the current 15mph down loop platform to increase to 30mph. The newly built platform has 25mph access. All platforms are bi-directional, crossover speeds are increased from 15mph to mostly 40mph and the access to the up freight loop raises to 50mph meaning freights will get out of the way much quicker than they currently do. These are most welcome improvements, but overall though, I'm a little disappointed a 'proper' job hasn't been made of the blank canvas created by closure of the two boxes as a few corners have been cut. The new platform being only 5-car length isn't great and it looks from the diagram that access to and from the depot isn't particularly flexible requiring shunt moves to access all platforms except platform 1. |
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2015, 11:28:26 » |
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it looks from the diagram that access to and from the depot isn't particularly flexible requiring shunt moves to access all platforms except platform 1. This is correct - moves from other platforms/the south will need a shunt move. They'll regret that. |
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2015, 11:33:26 » |
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Possibly both at the same time too....!
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2015, 11:57:18 » |
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Yes - it would make economic long term sense to invest for traveller numbers in 30 years time. However the rail industry and governments do not have all the cash resources as well as staff resources to look that far ahead for action now. 30 year ahead problems are therefore very low on the priority ratings to be built into today's projects when many other current needs cannot be met.
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