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« on: August 26, 2015, 06:52:35 » |
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Just seen this on the BBC» news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34059249Basssiclly one one of the labour leader candidates is considering introducing women only carriages on some train services...curious to know what other members think about this  |
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ChrisB
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2015, 07:15:14 » |
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Will work as well as the (un-policed) quiet carriages. Ie it won't
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2015, 07:33:54 » |
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Maybe on the HST▸ services they could use the remaining first class coach (only joking!)
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TaplowGreen
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2015, 08:18:49 » |
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...........I didn't realise Corbyn was now getting policy ideas from the Taliban?
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grahame
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2015, 08:25:14 » |
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Not a new idea - harking back to olden times (I remember seeing the last few women only compartments on the 4 SUB units in my youth / Beckenham Junction to Crystal Palace journeys) and the TV program last night "World's busiest railway" was showing them in Mumbai to this day.
Logic suggests that for equality reasons you should also have men only carriages.
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2015, 08:29:21 » |
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Not a new idea - harking back to olden times (I remember seeing the last few women only compartments on the 4 SUB units in my youth / Beckenham Junction to Crystal Palace journeys) and the TV program last night "World's busiest railway" was showing them in Mumbai to this day.
Logic suggests that for equality reasons you should also have men only carriages.
When I posted this something in my memory told me this had been done before but got distracted by a cup of coffee before I could google |
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2015, 09:14:46 » |
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What a ridiculous idea!! I am a woman and travel on the trains on my own at all times of day and night and have never had any problems.
As ChrisB said the quiet carriages are anything but (I have seen controllers go past people on phones there and not say anything!! Had visitors over from Australia who were amazed at the level of noise in the 'quiet' carriage - even talking is not permitted in quiet carriages in Sydney).
Rather than separating the sexes, how's about going back to teaching respect for each other and good manners?
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paul7575
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2015, 09:14:58 » |
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Surprised he had the time to think of this while considering important proposals such as leaving NATO...
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Tim
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2015, 13:29:42 » |
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not a supporter of women only carriage, but on problem trains, perhaps the solution would be to have a security guard in one coach and encourage anyone of either sex who felt vulnerable to travel there.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2015, 14:48:25 » |
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not a supporter of women only carriage, but on problem trains, perhaps the solution would be to have a security guard in one coach and encourage anyone of either sex who felt vulnerable to travel there.
Yes - advocates of women-only carriages seem to be suggesting that sexual assaults must always involve a male aggressor and a female victim, but this is not the case: according to this Guardian article from 2013 nearly 1 in 8 victims were male in the period 2009-2012. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2015, 16:09:30 » |
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Not a new idea - harking back to olden times (I remember seeing the last few women only compartments on the 4 SUB units in my youth / Beckenham Junction to Crystal Palace journeys) and the TV program last night "World's busiest railway" was showing them in Mumbai to this day.
Logic suggests that for equality reasons you should also have men only carriages.
Didn't know this had been done in UK▸ in the past. Certainly it's standard practice in India and some other countries. They also have one half of the bus reserved for women (and children). How effective it is, I don't know. Certainly it doesn't seem to have done much to improve the general position of women in India. |
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ChrisB
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2015, 16:11:42 » |
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That's for pure sexism reasons there....females are the underclass
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2015, 16:28:01 » |
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Theoretically it's one of several similar reservations (reserved seats for women on state councils, reserved college places and government jobs for "backward castes" and certain ethnic groups) aimed at ending the underclass situation, in addition to being intended to make women safer on buses and trains.
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ChrisB
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2015, 16:34:22 » |
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Are you referring to India or the UK▸ with that post?
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