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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2015, 16:55:56 »

Mo one meets at 9....
Oh yes they do.  In the opposite direction I often have to attend meetings in London that start at 9am and the only train that gets in from the far west is the 0553 from Plymouth which gets into Paddington at 0900......otherwise its the overnight sleeper or stay in a hotel the night before.....or be late for the meeting start Roll Eyes Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2015, 16:58:43 »

Interesting - only conference registrations in my experience do.....otherwise 0930 is the earliest generally in my experience.
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2015, 17:08:12 »

Interesting - only conference registrations in my experience do.....otherwise 0930 is the earliest generally in my experience.

In the Souuth West, we lykes to start earleee, Chris B.

I have an 08:30 tomorrow ... and a couple of weeks back an 07:30 to an event to listen to Diane Burke of GWR (Great Western Railway) talk about the new brand.  Oh - and I have an 09:00 in Plymouth next Monday;  wish the 06:38 from Melksham had a connection at Westbury.   That would be a fictional 05:45 from Paddington (Reading, Westbury, Taunton, Exeter, Newton Abbot, Plymouth)
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2015, 18:26:51 »

Mo one meets at 9....
When I was working - based in Exeter - I regularly had meetings at our other offices, in Salisbury, Bristol, Dorking and London, and can count on the fingers of one hand the number of morning meetings that started later than 9am.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2015, 19:35:29 »

What's really needed is a business orientated service leaving Paddington at around 0530, getting into Plymouth before 0900 to allow for a full day's business, the current first arrival is far too late.

Until quite recently, this first Plymouth train of the day via the Berks and Hants was the 09:06 off Paddington - the 07:06 was introduced as a Paignton service with a change at Newton Abbott, and recently that was diverted to Plymouth.   On Saturday, Ben Rule announced  that there's to be an earlier service too (06:37, I think) starting quite soon, at around 06:37 from Paddington

There are currently four Bristol-bound services during the week that leave Paddington before 7am and the first of these arrives in Bristol before the first Plymouth-bound service leaves Paddington. If a Plymouth-bound passenger chose to travel via Bristol on the first of these (05:19), they would still not arrive in Plymouth until 10:33!
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2015, 19:46:43 »

0945 is ample for business....nicely times for a 1000 meeting. It's not intended for long-distance commuting

You have an interesting view of "Business" - try saying to a client whose custom you're chasing "sorry can't meet you at 9, 10 is ample" and see how long the conversation lasts after that.

Even 10 is early for a meeting in my experience. Majority of mine are 11am - 1pm or 2-4pm
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2015, 19:56:23 »

Mo one meets at 9....
When I was working - based in Exeter - I regularly had meetings at our other offices, in Salisbury, Bristol, Dorking and London, and can count on the fingers of one hand the number of morning meetings that started later than 9am.
Clearly not a very Friendly organisation then.  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2015, 20:05:59 »

Mo one meets at 9....
I work in academia (aka relax-ademia) and often have meetings before 10:00am.

A conference in Norwich earlier in the summer, starting at 9:15am, left home at 5:15am to make the first train of the day therefore avoiding the cost of a hotel.
Meeting with external advisors last month, started at 9:00am as several were travelling back up North and wanted to get home on the train at a reasoable hour.
Conference in LA, started at 8:30am every day for five days, inlcuding a Saturday and Sunday!

I think your claim of no-one meeting at 9 is a little far fetched.
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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2015, 20:17:40 »

I did exclude conferences....

In my defence, I was referring to external meetings, doing business, rather than internal staff meetings
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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2015, 23:22:57 »

On Saturday, Ben Rule announced that there's to be an earlier service too (06:37, I think) starting quite soon, at around 06:37 from Paddington

From the slide used by Ben Rule at TravelWatch SouthWest in Taunton:

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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2015, 23:31:34 »

Was any indication given of the stopping pattern for that c06:37 or when it might be in the timetable?
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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2015, 23:41:10 »

No, Bob: I've quoted the full text from the slide, and I can't remember whether Ben added any detail in his talk - he was covering a lot of ground in the time available, so to speak!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2015, 23:43:02 »

No worries. I should have been there to listen but the day job, which would make use of such a train, got in the way!  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2015, 23:50:08 »

I seem to remember that there may possibly have been some reference to that proposal in one of the slides flashed up on the screens during Ben Rule's presentation at the TravelWatch SouthWest meeting in Taunton last Saturday.  Tongue

The trouble was, there were so many slides, shown in quick succession, and containing so much textual detail, that it was impossible to take it all in - while still listening to the speaker.  Roll Eyes

I'll obtain copies of the slides used, and report back here in due course.  Wink

Here is the wording from that particular slide:

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Night Riviera Services
 The future of these services is secured
 Upgrade in 2015 and 2016 funded by Cornwall Council
 Two additional carriages will be added to the fleet to enhance seasonal capacity
 The addition of another Class 57 locomotive to improve service reliability
 New or enhanced waiting facilities at Penzance, Truro and Paddington
 The platform used by the Night Riviera services at Penzance will receive a canopy
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2015, 07:16:45 »

This was announced earlier in the year within the franchise document, Page 10
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service to the South West at c.0637 from
Paddington, arriving in Exeter by c.0845, Plymouth
by c.0945 and Penzance by c.1140

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We will increase the number of services between
London and Penzance by one train in each
direction. We will provide an earlier direct first
inter-city service to the South West at c.0637 from
Paddington, arriving into Penzance at 1140. The
1215 return working will provide a new Penzance
to London service, closing the three hour gap
between 1000 and 1303 that exists in the
December 2014 timetable


Was any indication given of the stopping pattern for that c06:37 or when it might be in the timetable?

The document says from the May 2017 timetable change
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