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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2015, 09:54:13 »

We still don't have any clarity on whether the SET (Super Express Train (now IET)) deliveries are to be rescheduled, or the order modified. The BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) locally were splashing a headline yesterday that all the trains (in context, the GW (Great Western) SET order) would have diesel engines - whatever than means. That's not on the web site.
Yes I heard that mentioned on BBC South Today last evening. Could it be a decision based on making the entire 9 car fleet usuable to the SW as well? With the 9 car fleet for the SW having engines fitted, adding them to the all electric 9 cars for Bristol/South Wales may not cost as much but gives GWR (Great Western Railway) full fleet flexability when it comes to diagramming the fleet.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2015, 10:01:03 »

Well as it stands the Swansea services will need to be operated by bi-modes for several years after their introduction, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the order adjusted so that some 9-car bi-modes will be provided - as we know the engines can removed as and when required.

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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2015, 10:52:34 »

Well as it stands the Swansea services will need to be operated by bi-modes for several years after their introduction, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the order adjusted so that some 9-car bi-modes will be provided - as we know the engines can removed as and when required.

The other alternative is to operate electric 801/0s no further than Cardiff and have either a connecting Cardiff-Swansea diesel shuttle and/or find a way to extend the South Coast-Cardiff service to Swansea to provide for onward travel. That must be a better short-term solution than fitting (and subsequently removing) 5 engines on each of the 21 9-car 801/0s which would be needed for fleet flexibility.
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2015, 11:10:37 »

Swansea to Cardiff rail electrification 'in jeopardy' as delay in project confirmed
http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Swansea-Cardiff-rail-electrification-jeopardy/story-28242671-detail/story.html?

Rail electrification on South Wales mainline could be delayed to 2024
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/rail-electrification-south-wales-mainline-10503465?
I'm guessing this all comes from the chart on page 27 (28 of the PDF) of the Hendy report (which is the only part of it I've looked at so far). I don't understand why the South Wales Evening Post think this puts the electrification beyond Cardiff in jeopardy, the fact it was included there at all made me breathe a sigh of releif that it wouldn't be scrapped. Yes we have to wait to CP6 (Control Period 6 - The five year period between 2019 and 2024), but its there. More worrying is that the ValleyLines electrification isn't there (because it is subject to a seperate review by the Welsh Government).

As for the question of when the wires will be ready, the chart seems quite vauge. The 'story' that Swansea might not be wired until 2024 is one interpretation, that anything in a box could happen at anytime throughout the box. However, the other way of looking at it is that the items are positioned differently within each box, in which case the Swansea scheme is definiately scheduled nearer the begining of CP6 than the end.

Well as it stands the Swansea services will need to be operated by bi-modes for several years after their introduction, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the order adjusted so that some 9-car bi-modes will be provided - as we know the engines can removed as and when required.

The other alternative is to operate electric 801/0s no further than Cardiff and have either a connecting Cardiff-Swansea diesel shuttle and/or find a way to extend the South Coast-Cardiff service to Swansea to provide for onward travel. That must be a better short-term solution than fitting (and subsequently removing) 5 engines on each of the 21 9-car 801/0s which would be needed for fleet flexibility.
Or modify the order so that, say, half the 801s are instead delivered as 802s (the ones with larger fuel tanks and the engine software configured to allow full power). Alternatively, reform sets so that some 801s are 5-car and some 800s are 9-car, without buying as many extra engines as would be needed if all 801s became 800s, and use 801s only on Bristol and Cardiff services. Either way, 9-car bi-modes would be useful medium/long-term for diversions (eg. Wales via Gloucester when the Severn Tunnel is closed).
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2015, 11:15:35 »

That must be a better short-term solution than fitting (and subsequently removing) 5 engines on each of the 21 9-car 801/0s which would be needed for fleet flexibility.

Financially the best solution I would agree, but I very much doubt Network Rail, GWR (Great Western Railway) and the Government would risk the negative headlines that removal of through London trains from Wales' second city (and sixth and eighth in Neath and Bridgend) would create.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2015, 18:27:26 »


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The Chancellor's Spending Review, announced today, reaffirms this commitment, but both our organisations have had to make tough choices,
including your commitment to release ^1 .8 billion of investment through the sale of non-core and lower value assets. We have had to make up for the fact that successive governments have failed to invest the sums necessary to deliver the transport infrastructure our country needs. But we will provide the crucial links that allow people and businesses to prosper.

Does anyone know what these non-core and lower value assets are that NR» (Network Rail - home page) is going to sell?
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2015, 19:26:14 »

Does anyone know what these non-core and lower value assets are that NR» (Network Rail - home page) is going to sell?

I'm not even sure if that means non-core assets and also lower value assets, or (none-core and lower value) assets.  In other words - if something's none-core but has a high value, might it be sold?   What about something that is core, but with lower value?  And how are "core" and "value" defined anyway, and by whom?
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2015, 22:41:48 »

For clarity, I have revised / expanded the heading of this particular topic.  Wink
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2015, 22:53:03 »

Does anyone know what these non-core and lower value assets are that NR» (Network Rail - home page) is going to sell?

I'm not even sure if that means non-core assets and also lower value assets, or (none-core and lower value) assets.  In other words - if something's none-core but has a high value, might it be sold?   What about something that is core, but with lower value?  And how are "core" and "value" defined anyway, and by whom?

If you wanted to raise ^1.8 billion, would you do it by selling assets of low or lower individual value? I suspect it means of lower value to the business, even if they might be considered core assets. They would need to be of higher value to someone else or selling them wouldn't be worthwhile. Of course any sale under duress, even partially, does tend to realise less than it might in other circumstances.
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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2015, 18:40:45 »

Does anyone know what these non-core and lower value assets are that NR» (Network Rail - home page) is going to sell?

At a personal guess ripe for picking most if not all Major Stations, most if not all of the letting space under railway arches (as one or two going concerns property letting agencies), the land that is owned and least to TOC (Train Operating Company) for car parking, possibly even some of the bigger stations that are not a Major station.

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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2015, 18:11:52 »

Does anyone know what these non-core and lower value assets are that NR» (Network Rail - home page) is going to sell?

I think we may have a hint of an answer ...

From The Independent

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Debt-laden Network Rail plans sale of power lines to raise ^2bn

Acccountants hired to look into deal that would release funds for core track work

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KPMG has six months to determine how a sale would best be structured. A likely deal is Network Rail^s distribution network being sold to a private investor, energy utility or National Grid, which would then have a guaranteed revenue stream from charging Network Rail for the use of those pylons and cables.

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Network Rail is also preparing to outsource its telecoms work, which includes passenger wi-fi and the transmission of signalling information to train drivers. An industry source said the bidding process for this work is ^in the wings^.
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« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2015, 19:48:22 »

I did go through the Bowe report, if not thoroughly, to see what it contributes. As expected, it is primarily about the management and inter-departmental aspects of the CP5 (Control Period 5 - the five year period between 2014 and 2019) programmes, and as such may be a useful guide to DfT» (Department for Transport - about). It obviously excludes all engineering aspects of the work, but even so it rather misses the point about how Network rail got into its hole.

For one thing is considers the whole of CP5, and does not really concentrate on the areas that went wrong. It does find some relevant programme issues, for example:

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4.39 Scheme immaturity should not of itself result in cost escalation and delays to the
    programme. But the lack of definition of schemes is symptomatic in my view of the
    shortcomings in the project, programme and portfolio management practices followed by
    both Network Rail and to a lesser extent by the Department. These include, in planning:
  ^ unclear scope definition, coupled with inconsistent change management. The
    Review has found evidence that scope changes were not always managed though
    formal processes, leading to scope creep, a cause of some of the cost escalation
    (and identified by Network Rail in its SBP as responsible for the majority of a ^300m
    increase in costs on Great Western between the HLOS (High Level Output Specification) and the SBP, see illustrative
    example 2);
  ^ inconsistent assurance of project management products, as reflected in the poor
    cost estimates used at Final Determination;
  ^ inconsistent understanding, management and in particular escalation of risk; and
  ^ the failure to recognise the full impact of schemes and to integrate projects into
    programmes.
But she does not go any further into the management practices that allowed such misleading estimates to be shown to the DfT and ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about). That last point is about inter-project interactions, like the GW (Great Western) electrification and the resignalling that is not being all done first, but extending to much bigger combinations of infrastructure, rolling stock, and franchising into "programmes".

It is true that Great Western Route Modernisation is used as an example, but its treatment is very brief. It ends with:
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There was no effective mechanism for risks to be identified and escalated within Network Rail or the Department until a cross-industry programme board was instituted in early 2015.

If that's true, it's staggering for any engineering organisation, not just in this century. I suspect, however, that some project management methods, standard or not, were used to handle risk and uncertainty within NR» (Network Rail - home page). I could believe that, if those didn't match the way senior management felt they had to deal with the DfT, risk and uncertainty information might get "lost". But I might be wrong about that - and it would have been interesting to find out.

She also finds the reclassification to be very relevant, in that it removed NR's ability to borrow to fund overspends and worry about where the corresponding income would come from later. But nationalised industries used to be able to borrow - it's a matter of how they are directed by the department, not that status per se. And while averaging under- and overspends across a control period should work OK, does she really imagine there will be enough underspends to cover a ^2Bn hole? So being able to borrow to fund the overspend would (1) leave a future funding problem, and (2) not speed up delivery significantly. None of which issues are examined.
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« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2015, 20:24:48 »

Does anyone know what these non-core and lower value assets are that NR» (Network Rail - home page) is going to sell?

I think we may have a hint of an answer ...

From The Independent

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Debt-laden Network Rail plans sale of power lines to raise ^2bn

Acccountants hired to look into deal that would release funds for core track work

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KPMG has six months to determine how a sale would best be structured. A likely deal is Network Rail^s distribution network being sold to a private investor, energy utility or National Grid, which would then have a guaranteed revenue stream from charging Network Rail for the use of those pylons and cables.

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Network Rail is also preparing to outsource its telecoms work, which includes passenger wi-fi and the transmission of signalling information to train drivers. An industry source said the bidding process for this work is ^in the wings^.

That'll be an interesting one, NR HV distribution network is not compliant with the electricity supply regs, the voltage regulation would be a problem to any other uses connected to and they certainly will not like the harmonics the rectifiers produce.

As for the telecoms NR has just spent the last 10 year rebuilding it own system because of the costs of renting circuits form external providers

But I am sure political dogma knows best  Undecided
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