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« Reply #105 on: May 15, 2016, 23:37:35 »

Zero tolerance. Only way.

Genuine enthusiasts have already been penalised by the actions of a few. Running times are being withheld as long as possible.

I welcome the stance taken by the BTP (British Transport Police). I worry though that genuine enthusiasts, who obey instruction and don't trespass, will be hassled unnecessarily by those in authority.
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« Reply #106 on: May 15, 2016, 23:45:23 »

I, too, agree with that approach.  Otherwise, we're potentially back with William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament), who got squished on the tracks in his haste to greet the Duke of Wellington.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #107 on: May 16, 2016, 12:09:28 »

Personally, I reckon that's why NR» (Network Rail - home page) thought about pulling the trip.....but thought again. Nowt to do with gauging. Bear in mind that NR are responsible for every delay minute caused by those pillocks on railway land....
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« Reply #108 on: May 16, 2016, 13:21:49 »

Personally, I reckon that's why NR» (Network Rail - home page) thought about pulling the trip.....but thought again.

You are a cynic.  But sometimes cynics are right. I guess that now that Network Rail are a public body, someone's likely to find out under FOI (Freedom of Information) ...
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« Reply #109 on: May 17, 2016, 10:46:51 »

Hmmm......

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/flying-scotsman-8-trainspotters-arrested-for-trespassing-1-4129211

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EIGHT trainspotters have been charged with trespassing on the line during the Flying Scotsman^s visit.

Three man, aged 28, 34 and 54, and a 33-year-old woman were caught on the line between South Gyle and Dalmeny stations.

Two men, aged 39 and 41, and two women, aged 39 and 42, were then caught on the line near Glenrothes station.

Chief Superintendent John McBride, Divisional Commander for the British Transport Police in Scotland, said: ^The return of Flying Scotsman was a true spectacle and I want to thank all those people who lined the route and stations to see it as it passed.

^In the main our earlier advice and warnings about not straying on the line to view it were heeded.

^Our officers worked tirelessly with our rail industry partners to ensure the day^s events passed with out any real incident of note.

^It was a truly memorable day for many and I look forward to its return in the future.^
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« Reply #110 on: May 17, 2016, 12:52:00 »

Hmmm......

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/flying-scotsman-8-trainspotters-arrested-for-trespassing-1-4129211

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EIGHT trainspotters have been charged with trespassing on the line during the Flying Scotsman^s visit.

Three man, aged 28, 34 and 54, and a 33-year-old woman were caught on the line between South Gyle and Dalmeny stations.

Two men, aged 39 and 41, and two women, aged 39 and 42, were then caught on the line near Glenrothes station.

Chief Superintendent John McBride, Divisional Commander for the British Transport Police in Scotland, said: ^The return of Flying Scotsman was a true spectacle and I want to thank all those people who lined the route and stations to see it as it passed.

^In the main our earlier advice and warnings about not straying on the line to view it were heeded.

^Our officers worked tirelessly with our rail industry partners to ensure the day^s events passed with out any real incident of note.

^It was a truly memorable day for many and I look forward to its return in the future.^

I trust their binoculars, thermos flasks,Tupperware containers and notebooks will be confiscated?
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« Reply #111 on: May 17, 2016, 13:19:15 »

I went out 'spotting' (or rather photting) this past weekend, doing a harmless hobby I enjoy. A hobby done no favours by a small minority who think they can go wherever they please to get pictures of trains. I'm delighted to hear of these prosecutions for criminal trespass.

Don't particularly like lazy stereotypes either. I bought lunch where I was photting, had a beer or two in local pubs and noted numbers of the trains I'd photted on my phone. No Tupperware, Thermos or notebook.

Could we perhaps learn of a hobby of yours too TG, so we can poke fun at it as well.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #112 on: May 17, 2016, 15:06:01 »

Could we perhaps learn of a hobby of yours too TG, so we can poke fun at it as well.  Roll Eyes

Bigging up Plymouth seems to be his main hobby!   Shocked
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« Reply #113 on: May 17, 2016, 15:26:54 »

Could we perhaps learn of a hobby of yours too TG, so we can poke fun at it as well.  Roll Eyes

Bigging up Plymouth seems to be his main hobby!   Shocked

You could try rugby if you like? Played that for many years, sadly too old now.............. funny shaped balls, that sort of thing? (As for Plymouth, God's own city needs no help from me.......but you can join me in celebrating/poking fun at Argyle reaching Wembley at Pompey's expense depending on preference!) Wink


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« Reply #114 on: May 17, 2016, 16:12:22 »

...but you can join me in celebrating/poking fun at Argyle reaching Wembley at Pompey's expense depending on preference!) Wink

You pick the Wetherspoons, I'll be there.  Tongue
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« Reply #115 on: May 17, 2016, 23:23:49 »

Hmm...

I trust their binoculars, thermos flasks, Tupperware containers and notebooks will be confiscated?

I went out 'spotting' (or rather photting) this past weekend, doing a harmless hobby I enjoy. A hobby done no favours by a small minority who think they can go wherever they please to get pictures of trains. I'm delighted to hear of these prosecutions for criminal trespass.

Don't particularly like lazy stereotypes either. I bought lunch where I was photting, had a beer or two in local pubs and noted numbers of the trains I'd photted on my phone. No Tupperware, Thermos or notebook.

In my experience, the serious train spotters and / or photographers (with their binoculars, video and/or SLR cameras, Thermos flasks and Tupperware containers) are the ones who stay fastidiously behind any white or yellow lines or safety barriers - and get quite agitated if they see anyone not following their example.

The casual / opportunist train spotters (with their mobile phones on selfie sticks, for example) are the ones who are likely to get arrested for criminal trespass on the railways.

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« Reply #116 on: May 18, 2016, 10:27:38 »

In my experience, the serious train spotters and / or photographers (with their binoculars, video and/or SLR cameras, Thermos flasks and Tupperware containers) are the ones who stay fastidiously behind any white or yellow lines or safety barriers - and get quite agitated if they see anyone not following their example.

The casual / opportunist train spotters (with their mobile phones on selfie sticks, for example) are the ones who are likely to get arrested for criminal trespass on the railways.

An "agitation" of trainspotters - a new collective noun? .......does sound quite intimidating though - is this what used to be known as the InterCity Firm?  Smiley




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« Reply #117 on: May 18, 2016, 10:30:46 »

selfish fits the description.
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« Reply #118 on: May 19, 2016, 09:18:03 »

Leaving platform 1 at Paddington on Saturday at 0837....
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« Reply #119 on: May 19, 2016, 23:07:23 »

In my experience, the serious train spotters and / or photographers ... get quite agitated if they see anyone not following their example.

An "agitation" of trainspotters - a new collective noun? ...

No, I meant that serious train spotters / photographers are generally concerned when they see less sensible people behaving irresponsibly trackside - and will report them to railway staff / police if possible, lest their hobby be brought further into disrepute by the actions of those 'selfish' few.  Lips sealed
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