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« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2016, 11:32:45 » |
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This thread's been on the go since February, I think the HSTs▸ were pretty much ruled out half way down page 1, but of course the thread title remains positive for any new readers...
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« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2016, 12:07:08 » |
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I have heard that Long Rock in Penzance will have an allocation of five 2+5 HST▸ sets.
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« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2016, 13:36:44 » |
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Is that long-term, or simply to cover the (late?) arrival of the AT300s? I suspect the latter - so gone before the toilets need changing
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« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2016, 13:58:39 » |
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I have heard that Long Rock in Penzance will have an allocation of five 2+5 HST▸ sets.
From a Long Rock engineer on Rail Forums. I know of the poster and for him to be reputable and verified as an engineer at Long Rock Today, 24/6/16, and info received from Fleet Engineering Manager in person.
With the well known IEP▸ delays, the number of 165/166 units retained at Reading depot will increase.
The rest for Bristol as planned for Cardiff-Portsmouth.
This means not all 158s will head west so it looks increasingly likely that the 2+4 HST plan will be signed off by the DfT» in July. These will be used for the Bristol to Penzance corridor and will have sliding doors and CET▸ fitted and should carry green livery.
The coach ends will effectively be chopped off and a new design modular door area will be fitted hence cost saving on measuring each coach on an individual basis.
These will be used in conjunction with the AT300s to form the planned Dec 2018 timetable upgrade.
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« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2016, 14:19:26 » |
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So 165/166s for Cardiff/Portsmouth pretty much confirmed. Presumably a mixture?
Interesting that the doors & CET▸ (toilets I guess) are going to be done before its necessary (2020/1 isn't it?)
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« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2016, 14:25:07 » |
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CET▸ is Controlled Emission Toilets I believe.
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« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2016, 14:33:50 » |
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Are they going to fit the retained HSTS with controlled emission toilets Retention toilets surely? Din't think so...as they're not retaining them for long you were right, apologies |
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« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2016, 22:38:22 » |
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This thread's been on the go since February, I think the HSTs▸ were pretty much ruled out half way down page 1, but of course the thread title remains positive for any new readers
Fair comment, Paul - I've therefore taken the opportunity to clarify the topic heading now.  |
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« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2016, 12:59:47 » |
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This thread's been on the go since February, I think the HSTs▸ were pretty much ruled out half way down page 1, but of course the thread title remains positive for any new readers
Fair comment, Paul - I've therefore taken the opportunity to clarify the topic heading now. Except that I thought the current rumour is that class 158s will continue to work the Cardiff-Portsmouth, not 166s and 165s as the heading states (although some say the 165s will work stoppers alongside the 158s on the main Cardiff-Portsmouth regional express services). |
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« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2016, 13:23:17 » |
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From a Long Rock engineer on Rail Forums. I know of the poster and for him to be reputable and verified as an engineer at Long Rock Today, 24/6/16, and info received from Fleet Engineering Manager in person.
With the well known IEP▸ delays, the number of 165/166 units retained at Reading depot will increase.
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« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2016, 21:57:51 » |
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« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2016, 22:06:05 » |
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So, would you like me to update this topic's heading again, or not? The current heading is as advised by an engineering manager. I think it's a good bet! |
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« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2016, 09:40:40 » |
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So, would you like me to update this topic's heading again, or not? The current heading is as advised by an engineering manager. I think it's a good bet! A good bet maybe, but the rumours seems to be changing at a rate of knots. If I were to suggest re-naming it would be something like "Rumour of HSTs▸ to operate Cardiff-Portsmouth discounted - who knows what else instead". This from WNXX▸ forum: All change;
All 21 class 166 to be allocated to Bristol plus 'most' of the two car 165s. All three car 165s remain at Reading. 166s to be all standard class with some seating rearranged.
Officially all 153s to go off lease, unofficially the five Porterbrook 153s are remaining. |
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« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2016, 10:44:30 » |
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So, would you like me to update this topic's heading again, or not? The current heading is as advised by an engineering manager. I think it's a good bet! A good bet maybe, but the rumours seems to be changing at a rate of knots. If I were to suggest re-naming it would be something like "Rumour of HSTs▸ to operate Cardiff-Portsmouth discounted - who knows what else instead". This from WNXX▸ forum: All change;
All 21 class 166 to be allocated to Bristol plus 'most' of the two car 165s. All three car 165s remain at Reading. 166s to be all standard class with some seating rearranged.
Officially all 153s to go off lease, unofficially the five Porterbrook 153s are remaining. My source isn't a rumour, but current actual plans straight from the horses mouth! Of course plans may change if further delays or issues with electrification. The current official plans is 1 tp2h 2+4 HST Penzance -Cardiff/Bristol. 165/6 Cardiff-Portsmouth. These are of course subject to change |
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« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2016, 14:07:28 » |
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Cardiff - Penzance on a hst I don't will be such a bad idea especially when you compare them to clas 150/1's that have 3+2 seating which I don't really like.
Still I suspect things are likely to change again now in the near future
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