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Also I would sugegst it would be politically very difficult to shut Shrub Hill even if Parkway took a lot of it's traffic. If they can't shut Denton with one train a week in one direction then Shrub hill becomes impossible.
There are precedents for a station to be closed where it is replaced by an alternative facility ... a couple I can think of since I got involved in rail stuff are North Woolwich (replaced by King George V) and Abercynon North (replaced by combined station at Abercynon South / renamed Abercynon). |
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« Reply #136 on: August 14, 2014, 17:49:54 » |
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There are precedents for a station to be closed where it is replaced by an alternative facility ... a couple I can think of since I got involved in rail stuff are North Woolwich (replaced by King George V) and Abercynon North (replaced by combined station at Abercynon South / renamed Abercynon). One which I can recall is Smethwick West, which was replaced by Smethwick Galton Bridge, a few hundred yards away. Galton Bridge has similarities with Worcester Parkway, in that it has platforms on two levels (Wolverhampton to Birmingham New Street and Stourbridge Junction to Birmingham Snow Hill/Moor Street) where the lines cross one another. However, I do not know how reliable any connections there may be. |
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« Reply #137 on: August 14, 2014, 19:13:44 » |
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Another, slightly further into the recent past, would be Tiverton Junction. Closed in 1986 in favour of Tiverton Parkway.
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« Reply #138 on: August 15, 2014, 08:16:42 » |
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...or Filton, closed in favour of Filton Abbey Wood 250m to the south.
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« Reply #139 on: August 15, 2014, 08:37:07 » |
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Or Portishead in 1954 to be replaced by a modern futuristic station nearer the town centre that sadly was to close only 10 years later ! Now the site is occupied by the towns only fuel outlet !
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« Reply #140 on: August 17, 2014, 13:49:46 » |
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...or Filton, closed in favour of Filton Abbey Wood 250m to the south.
Since when it has gone from 1 train each way daily to several dozen. |
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« Reply #141 on: August 17, 2014, 15:39:47 » |
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...or Filton, closed in favour of Filton Abbey Wood 250m to the south.
Since when it has gone from 1 train each way daily to several dozen. And passenger numbers have risen (from what - probably under 10,000 per annum) to over three quarters of a million. |
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« Reply #142 on: August 17, 2014, 18:57:30 » |
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And passenger numbers have risen (from what - probably under 10,000 per annum) to over three quarters of a million.
Just shows what you can do by building an office costing a mere ^750 million. |
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« Reply #143 on: August 17, 2014, 19:14:47 » |
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Not to forget the billions of pounds worth of stuff designed to kill people that is procured through that office complex.
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« Reply #144 on: August 17, 2014, 20:37:16 » |
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Not to forget the billions of pounds worth of stuff designed to kill people that is procured through that office complex.
Steady now! My daughter started her career there, and is no warmonger. I'm ex-military and no warmonger either. Defence of the realm is the first responsibility of any government. And it has laid the foundations for decent local rail travel. |
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« Reply #145 on: August 17, 2014, 21:03:50 » |
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I'd agree with those sentiments. At the risk of taking this thread completely off topic, recent events in the Ukraine, as well as in Iraq, have shown that when thinking about defence, one needs to take an extremely long term view as to what might happen. One of the reasons why I thought axing our carrier capability on the basis that the new one will (may?) be ready in 10 years time was somewhat foolish.
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« Reply #146 on: August 17, 2014, 21:27:37 » |
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Whilst what I said was intended as a little tongue in cheek there's surely no denying that military materiel, if used, is designed to destroy either person or property, even in defence.
Military spending does provide jobs and help sustain our economy. It also aids scientific, medical and other research, and I'm not denying that a responsible government must ensure the defence of its citizens. There are, however, recent wider geo-political issues where the use of our military has, in my opinion, been less than responsible.
No accusations of warmongering to those who work in defence procurement, have served, or who are serving, were intended, but apologies for any offence caused.
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« Reply #147 on: August 17, 2014, 22:15:41 » |
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So it is not having it that is the issue but how it is used.
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« Reply #148 on: August 17, 2014, 23:42:29 » |
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Getting this back onto the original topic, I wonder whether any plans have been produced showing the layout of the proposed station and its car park and the access to it.
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« Reply #149 on: August 18, 2014, 19:29:41 » |
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Whilst what I said was intended as a little tongue in cheek there's surely no denying that military materiel, if used, is designed to destroy either person or property, even in defence. Except when used to drop aid to refugees, as an example... No accusations of warmongering to those who work in defence procurement, have served, or who are serving, were intended, but apologies for any offence caused.
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