Definition of 'Heritage Diesel'

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[PhilWakely]

Tomorrow's (13/4/16) Cathedrals Express from West Brompton to Bristol Temple Meads was originally scheduled to use 6201, but when she was declared unavailable, 34067 was substituted. 34067 has subsequently been declared unfit, so Steam Dreams/WCRC are now using a 'Heritage Diesel'.

Past experience tells me that the 'Heritage Diesel' will be one or maybe two of WCRC's Class 47s. As these are used on almost all WCRC tours to provide train heating, I would not necessarily describe them as 'Heritage Diesel'.

What do other think and what would you have liked to see under the circumstances?

[ChrisB]

If I'd booked for steam and it wasn't supplied, I'd expect an option of my money back if I didn't want to travel behind the diesel offered.....

[grahame]

If I'd booked for steam and it wasn't supplied, I'd expect an option of my money back if I didn't want to travel behind the diesel offered.....

Hmmm .. but their terms and conditions say

If, for reasons beyond our control, a trip advertised as being at least partially steam hauled has no steam traction a partial refund of ^10 in Premium Standard, ^15 in First Class, ^20 in Premier Dining and ^25 in Pullman Style Dining may be offered. Alternatively we may offer a credit note for double this amount to be used against a future trip. The nature of the refund must be agreed on the date of the trip, otherwise the credit note will be issued.

[ChrisB]

A broken steam engine (assuming they operate it & not hired in), is IMHO^▸ (in my humble opinion), reasons WITHIN their control & thus that wouldn't apply

[PhilWakely]

A broken steam engine (assuming they operate it & not hired in), is IMHO^▸ (in my humble opinion), reasons WITHIN their control & thus that wouldn't apply

I completely agree with you, but the way these tour companies work, they appear, on paper at least, to be completely separate entities from the rolling stock provider, so can get away with 'being out of their control'

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Don't we have heritage diesels in daily use out of Paddington 

[Rhydgaled]

Don't we have heritage diesels in daily use out of Paddington 

Class 57s don't have their original engines do they, so although the bodyshell is perhaps 'heritage' perhaps the loco as a whole isn't. Or do they use a class 08 to move the sleeper stock to and from the depot?

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I had forgot about the 57's

[Western Enterprise]

Or do they use a class 08 to move the sleeper stock to and from the depot?

Yep, seen the black early crest 08 there taking the sleeper back to the depot the other month.
And what a growler too, quite a now unfamiliar noise when working hard when not on the Heritage circuit.
W.E