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Author Topic: Another West Coast Railways charter 'incident' at Bath Spa - 13 April 2016  (Read 17939 times)
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« on: April 15, 2016, 10:56:48 »

Apparently another WCR steam charter "incident" at Bath Spa last night.  Stopped short then drew forward when people were disembarking.

Apparently RAIB (Rail Accident Investigation Branch) are investigating.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.railway/z3BC8i8Y0b0

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2016, 11:00:47 »

Without trying to be fussy, was Wednesday 13th.   Just after having their licence restored (again) another hiccup.    The train was 1Z63 1636 Bristol temple Meads to West Brompton being worked by 2x47s and mixture of Mark 1 and Mark 2 carriages with no CDL (Central Door Locking).
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2016, 11:03:33 »

Also, wasn't steam. Diesel hauled service.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2016, 17:08:43 »

It worries me that their licence was restored too hastily. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2016, 17:27:21 »

Looking at RTT» (Real Time Trains - website)  http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U59901/2016/04/13/advanced whatever happened didn't seem to delay its departure from Bath (although it was already 19L).
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2016, 17:47:09 »

The head of the ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) was interviewed and feels they hace everything under control, an inspector almost imbeded and 6 others, which includes the ORR MD regularly visiting. They are still on an improvement notice, but have achiever everything required of them in the prohibition notice, thus the ORR needed to mark that notice 'achieved' and lift it
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2016, 18:31:37 »

Looking at RTT» (Real Time Trains - website)  http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U59901/2016/04/13/advanced whatever happened didn't seem to delay its departure from Bath (although it was already 19L).

Was delayed between Bristol and Bath due signalling problems.
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2016, 19:17:13 »

Apparently another WCR steam charter "incident" at Bath Spa last night.  Stopped short then drew forward when people were disembarking.

Apparently RAIB (Rail Accident Investigation Branch) are investigating.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.railway/z3BC8i8Y0b0

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I'm not sure why any pax would have been disembarking that particular service at Bath Spa.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2016, 20:23:27 »

I'm not sure why any pax would have been disembarking that particular service at Bath Spa.
I thought the excursion allowed for pax to disembark at Bath on the outward leg, so I could understand pax embarking on the return leg - unless of course they are referring to on-train staff disembarking.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2016, 20:52:27 »

Looking at RTT» (Real Time Trains - website)  http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U59901/2016/04/13/advanced whatever happened didn't seem to delay its departure from Bath (although it was already 19L).

Did sit at Platform 1 at Westbury for a while however. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2016, 10:38:38 »

Early reports say that Driver was relieved at Westbury.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2016, 13:56:34 »

Another forum has the Network Rail log related to this incident. I'll not quote it here but it does appear to show continued disregard for proper safe operation by both WCRC and its staff.

Link for those registered at WNXX (Stored Unserviceable, Mainline Locos HQ All Classes) Forums.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2016, 19:34:21 »

At our TransWilts forum in Salisbury yesterday, the matter of heritage train operation, safety and training issues thereon, and West Coast Railways in particular was discussed, with a member of the audience having been / being a steward with them and telling us a little of that. Rather interesting that as we were on our way home from that forum, there's a further incident reported.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2016, 19:42:42 »

There was a rather amusing link in one of the posts in the original discussion, on another forum, referred to in CJB666's original post on this topic.

See http://replygif.net/i/586.gif  Grin

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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2016, 09:09:43 »

The incident at Bath Spa on the 13th April 2016 has now made it into the media:

West Coast Railways probed over 'doors open' train movement - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36103590
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