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Author Topic: Avocet Line - Exeter to Exmouth - incidents and events; services, stock and related improvements  (Read 132625 times)
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« Reply #135 on: May 02, 2011, 19:08:43 »

Erm ... just glad to have been of some help there.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #136 on: May 02, 2011, 19:10:49 »

Erm ... just glad to have been of some help there.  Embarrassed

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« Reply #137 on: May 02, 2011, 19:15:28 »

I was acknowledging RichardB's gratitude, expressed in the previous post to yours, relex109 - sorry for causing you confusion!  Wink Cheesy Grin
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #138 on: August 21, 2011, 21:45:37 »

On Saturday a early morning service from Digby to Exeter Central had 2  X 2 Car Units and not many people.


But on Lunch return trip there was only 1 2 Car Unit which was packed and people had to stand.


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« Reply #139 on: August 21, 2011, 22:07:14 »

No doubt a separate diagram.    There are not enough Units to strengthen all services so the best option has to be taken.   The diagram with the 2 X 2 could have been heavily loaded on another service during the day and the other diagram comfortably loaded for the rest of the day.
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« Reply #140 on: August 22, 2011, 09:18:42 »

On Saturday a early morning service from Digby to Exeter Central had 2  X 2 Car Units and not many people.


But on Lunch return trip there was only 1 2 Car Unit which was packed and people had to stand.


Guy


I mean no offence when I say this Guy, but this sort of quote is one that really annoys those of us that work on the railway. We often get asked 'Why haven't you put on extra coaches?', and I've lost count of the number of times I've replied, 'We can't just make them magically appear!', to the point now where I will often just shrug my shoulders, and look vague!
Most people that use this forum understand the chronic lack of units on our rail network, and a lot of people understand the diagramming issues and restrictions. This is before we talk about the logistical, and timing problems, of pinching a unit out of one diagram and inserting it into another. Believe me, if it was feasible, it would be done!
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« Reply #141 on: August 22, 2011, 20:48:35 »

I didn't want to offend anyone at all; I know it down to the Government to say how much rolling stock the train company to run the  franchise, that one of the biggest problems

If you let the rail company own their own rolling stock  so they can run the franchise.

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« Reply #142 on: August 22, 2011, 21:32:28 »

... I know it down to the Government to say how much rolling stock the train company to run the  franchise ...

It isn't actually that straighforward, I'm afraid.  Part of the bidding for (some?) franchises has been to state how much stock you'll need to run the services, and it's historically been regarded by the bid evaluators as rather good if the figure is lower rather than higher.  There is some sound logic for this; better to make efficient use of stock rather than having it sitting around or used inefficiently.  However, it also encourgages bidders to overestimate availability and underestimate growth - not a good thing when it leads to overcrowding for significant periods of people's journeys, or overcrowding that's so extreme that people are denied boarding and have a long wait for the next train.
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« Reply #143 on: August 22, 2011, 21:34:37 »


It isn't actually that straighforward, I'm afraid.  Part of the bidding for (some?) franchises has been to state how much stock you'll need to run the services, and it's historically been regarded by the bid evaluators as rather good if the figure is lower rather than higher. 

Do we know whether FGW (First Great Western) specified the rolling stock in their bid or DfT» (Department for Transport - about)?
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« Reply #144 on: August 22, 2011, 21:58:51 »

Hi

Hope this link to the DFT (Department for Transport) web site helps

http://www.dft.gov.uk/topics/rail-passenger-franchises/background/
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« Reply #145 on: February 03, 2012, 09:48:21 »

Caught the 1654 train from Central which was then held up at the entrance to the branch for about 5 minutes.
Got to Topsham and then another 5 minute wait before all passengers were asked to leave the train.
30 minute wait on freezing platform ensued...
When we got on another train the conductor announced that there had been an incident with a person 'on the line'.
Can anyone provide any further information?
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« Reply #146 on: February 03, 2012, 10:39:59 »

Interesting we had similar incident last year. Held up at Topsham long enough to miss the Reading train, whilst they escorted someone off the line. Wonder if it's common problem on that stretch?
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« Reply #147 on: February 06, 2012, 14:38:12 »

I believe there were two people, and the police, on the line between Polsloe Bridge, and Digby, which caused the delays. The train terminated at Topsham due to it almost being in the pathway of the following train to Exmouth, and thus enabling the service to get back to normal.
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« Reply #148 on: September 30, 2012, 12:54:44 »

Exeter to Exmouth will join many of the other branch lines in the South West as a community rail line.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/news/press-releases/dft-press-20120928a/
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« Reply #149 on: October 01, 2012, 15:41:38 »

What is the significant of community rail line "branding"?
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