Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
No recent travel & transport from BBC stories as at 05:15 29 Apr 2024
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 22/05/24 - WWRUG / TransWilts update
02/06/24 - Summer Timetable starts
17/08/24 - Bus to Imber
27/09/25 - 200 years of passenger trains

On this day
29th Apr (1973)
Patent award for Janney (Buckeye) coupling (*)

Train RunningShort Run
09:23 London Paddington to Oxford
14:02 Oxford to London Paddington
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
April 29, 2024, 05:17:33 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[121] Visiting the pub on the way home.
[98] Clan Line - by Clan Line !
[25] South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed
[24] access for all at Devon stations report
[15] Labour to nationalise railways within five years of coming to ...
[12] Misleading advertising?
 
News: the Great Western Coffee Shop ... keeping you up to date with travel around the South West
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Bradshaw, 1892 and other ways of finding information  (Read 1780 times)
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 40843



View Profile WWW Email
« on: September 23, 2016, 11:25:49 »

What sort of print run would there have been for railway timetables such as Bradshaw (and rail company's own timetables) back in 1892?  Would it have been "everyone who used trains had one", just available in a few places, or somewhere between?   How would the occasional traveller on a cross country route have researched his options?
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
Tim
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2738


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2016, 11:48:30 »

I suspect that whilst very many people used the railway, the vast vast majority would have stuck to a small number of routes the times of which would have been well known without needing to own a timetable.

Back in the day many services were far less frequent than now, so for a rural station there might be the early morning "workmans" train and a then a later one for the gentlemen, and the return services and that might have been pretty much it. 

The price in 1910 was 2 shillings.  Worth about £20 or £30 in today's money (about what a second hand copy will fetch on ebay today) so a significant outlay for many people, but not unaffordable for the "middling sorts", businessmen, commercial hotels or libraries.  My guess (and it is only that) was that print runs rose from the 1863 to about the 1920/30 and then slowly started to decline.

Presumably (and unlike with today's online enquiries) fare information was not in Bradshaws, so you would need a trip to the station anyway to "research your options" for many cross country journeys.  I am not so young to forget that a trip to the station "travel centre" or a "rail appointed travel agent" was the usual way to research a cross country journey anyway until say 15 years ago. 

As for companies' own timetables, it is my understanding that many companies issued reprints of the relevant pages of Bradshaw as their own guide.  The GWR (Great Western Railway) being the only major exception to that. 

Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 40843



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2016, 12:52:48 »

Many thanks, Tim ... some good points I would not have considered, and some depth I didn't know.   My wife's doing some historic research with a view to writing a book about events that happened in Wiltshire and north east Dorset in 1892 (with various things happening in Portsmouth and London too) and is looking at the likely journeys made by the 'lead' player - what he would have been likely to know and how much he would have been able to quickly research.   I had (I think) concluded already that Bradshaw wouldn't be in everyone's pocket - not so much thinking of the price but of the weight, but was left wondering what other sources would be available of whether (at a time of some stress in his life, our lead player would simply turn up at the station.
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
Worcester_Passenger
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1723


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2016, 13:30:43 »

The local weekly paper in my grandparents' home town, Barrow in Furness, had the local railway timetable occupying the right-hand half of the back page before WWI.

Given that we were back in the days of letterpress, this must have been an easy job - the print would stay set for months (years?) on end.

I don't know to what extent this was normal practice for a local paper, but it may be worth looking at.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page