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Author Topic: First / MTR win South Western franchise 2017 - 2024, and CMA raises competition concerns (merged topic)  (Read 14166 times)
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« Reply #225 on: August 11, 2017, 04:09:56 PM »

They may not have a choice. Required to do the government's bidding, implementing McNulty, and be the buffer for the inevitable conflict with the RMT, and maybe ASLEF too.

What is franchising for? Shielding the government. Particularly when it is of a blue hue.

I find it perfectly believable that Stagecoach's bid including a promise to keep guards on all services. That being a reason their bid was unsuccessful.
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« Reply #226 on: August 11, 2017, 05:03:23 PM »

I find it perfectly believable that Stagecoach's bid including a promise to keep guards on all services. That being a reason their bid was unsuccessful.
Deliberately so?
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« Reply #227 on: August 15, 2017, 12:00:17 PM »

It may be a requirement of the franchise?....Similar to Southern/GTR.
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« Reply #228 on: August 15, 2017, 12:15:34 PM »

It may be a requirement of the franchise?....Similar to Southern/GTR.
It isn't mentioned in the Southwestern ITT, except in the context of a standard requirement for any new rolling stock to include the hardware capability (a bit like the IEPs).  The Southern (i.e. TSGN) ITT was completely different in regards to this subject, but even it did not explicitly ask for more DOO operation to be brought in, it just reads that existing DOO operation had to be maintained.

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« Reply #229 on: August 15, 2017, 12:29:19 PM »

There will be confidential clauses agreed that don't appear in the public domain
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« Reply #230 on: August 18, 2017, 09:47:16 PM »

SWT have published a 'Goodbye' document: http://www.stagecoach.com/about/our-companies/src=/~/media/Files/S/Stagecoach-Group/Attachments/pdf/swt-supplement-mr-edition.pdf
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« Reply #231 on: August 21, 2017, 09:43:10 AM »

And so it begins:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40965413

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The new South Western rail franchise holder has been criticised by a union for allegedly refusing to guarantee a second staff member on board its forthcoming trains.

FirstGroup takes over on Sunday amid ongoing disputes over driver-operated doors and the role of train guards.

The company said it would be "retaining a second person" on board trains.

The RMT union said in talks the firm refused to provide a guarantee "despite what they have been telling the press".

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