Train Graphic
Great Western Passengers' Forum Great Western Coffee Shop - [home] and [about]
Read about the forum [here]. Register and contribute [here] - it's free.
Random Image
Train Running @GWR Twitter Acronyms/Abbreviations Station Comparator Rail News GWR co. site Site Style 1 2 3 4 Chat on off
August 20, 2017, 12:48:47 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Does anyone travel on a straightforward ticket on Cross Country these days?  (Read 2437 times)
didcotdean
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 614


View Profile
« on: March 30, 2017, 02:29:31 PM »

Of course there will be some on short journeys.

At the weekend though everyone in my earshot when the tickets were being checked through were on split tickets, including myself (Didcot-Banbury, Banbury-Birmingham NS). Some had as many as six for a single journey without a real change.
Logged
ChrisB
TransWilts Member
Hero Member
******
Posts: 8465


View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2017, 02:33:30 PM »

They're damned expensive these days on longer journeys....its not surprising really.
Logged
didcotdean
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 614


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2017, 03:53:26 PM »

Anyone trying to get data on travel on Cross Country from ticket sales is going to struggle. Although maybe they are able to knit them all back together again from a sequence of seat reservations ...

Logged
bignosemac
TransWilts Member
Hero Member
******
Posts: 14545


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2017, 06:06:28 PM »

A semi-regular trip I took with CrossCountry when I lived in Bristol was from Bristol TM - Birmingham NS. Often the first leg of a split for travel further north. I always used a point-to-point ticket, either Anytime Day Return, Off Peak Day Return, Off Peak Return, or 1st Off Peak Return.

Those tickets never had Bristol or Birmingham printed on them mind...  Lips sealed
Logged

Lover of trains and all things rail related. That love and enjoyment has been severely dented in recent years by FGW/GWR.
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 17454



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2017, 07:15:30 PM »

What are you folks meaning by "short" and "long" journey?   I've used their service to travel from BTH to PLY on a standard anytime return (with senior railcard discount mind).   A very useful service as it lets me travel from home to Plymouth and be there in time for a day's work.  Can't recall which TOC I started with on the way back, but changed to GWR to reach BTH.
Logged

TransWilts Rail - Linking North to West and South 9 times a day. [see here]
didcotdean
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 614


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2017, 09:54:32 PM »

That fare though is set by GWR. It is also one of a reducing set of anytime returns that is priced at a relatively trivial amount above an anytime single (1.60) - and really not that much above the off-peak price. A fairly sweat spot maybe.
Logged
bignosemac
TransWilts Member
Hero Member
******
Posts: 14545


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2017, 09:58:14 PM »

A fairly sweat spot maybe.

Stood in the vestibule of an overcrowded Voyager? Can get a little clammy.  Tongue Wink Grin
Logged

Lover of trains and all things rail related. That love and enjoyment has been severely dented in recent years by FGW/GWR.
didcotdean
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 614


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2017, 10:12:08 PM »

I'm glad that didn't go unnoticed. I thought of doing it in brackets.

Incidentally in looking up the prices I see the outward portion is valid for five days. Good for a leisurely peak-time progression south westwards or maybe they think people need to take a break at each stop on the Voyager.
Logged
trainer
TransWilts Member
Hero Member
******
Posts: 926


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2017, 11:24:04 PM »

I suspect the strict answer to the posed question is:

'The ill-informed and those on expense accounts.'

A few years back I was pleased to hear a booking clerk (is that still the correct title?) at Weston-super-Mare gently explaining to a lady of mature years that she could save money by splitting at Cheltenham.  I say 'gently' because the poor soul was very dubious that she was able to have two tickets, not get off the train and it would cost less.  Fair (fare!) play to the clerk for persisting in helping even when resisted.
Logged
ellendune
TransWilts Member
Hero Member
******
Posts: 2531


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2017, 07:33:47 AM »

'The ill-informed and those on expense accounts.'

That depends on the culture of the company you work for.  Where I work just because it is on expenses that does not mean people do not try to get a good deal.
Logged
Worcester_Passenger
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 896


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2017, 07:45:47 AM »

I had four tickets to get to and from Skegness yesterday. OK, only two of those were on XC.

I don't think that it's possible to reassemble the through journey within the passenger data - every time that I've seen some of this data it has been aggregated into totals by class and ticket-type between A and B.
Logged
didcotdean
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 614


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2017, 08:59:29 AM »

I recently read in the latest iteration of the South Oxfordshire Local Plan that from Didcot only 50% of the commuting journeys are to London, with 20% being to other Oxfordshire+Reading stations and 30% elsewhere. This compares to say Henley where it is 70%. It did niggle at the back of my mind though whether this had been calculated somehow without the distortion of split tickets (even though there are genuine commuters to Swindon and points further west). Mind you it could be even further distorted if using ticket sale data with people using Oxford-London seasons from Didcot.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants