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Author Topic: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues  (Read 32503 times)
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« Reply #300 on: January 11, 2018, 07:34:34 am »

Perhaps the springwatch team could set a camera trap in the buffet car of an IET in order to photograph the elusive creature.

A buffet car??  Arenít they already extinct on an IET?
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« Reply #301 on: January 11, 2018, 07:45:43 am »

A buffet car??  Arenít they already extinct on an IET?
I think that was the punchline because they don't exist  Smiley
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« Reply #302 on: January 11, 2018, 08:12:23 am »

From Journeycheck this am (11/01.2018)

07:12 Taunton to London Paddington due 10:14


Facilities on the 07:12 Taunton to London Paddington due 10:14.

This is due to a fault occurring when attaching a part of this train.

Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.


Could be a cosy journey for some today particularly those with reservations in the half of the service that ain't there.
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« Reply #303 on: January 12, 2018, 11:03:28 am »

Just passed Doncaster on a (25 min delayed!) Virgin Eastcoaster to Leeds, and think I saw a 9-coach IET (green, but without GWR branding) parked-up which I think was 800303 (we were going quite quick past it!) - would that be right?
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« Reply #304 on: January 12, 2018, 11:15:42 am »

Just passed Doncaster on a (25 min delayed!) Virgin Eastcoaster to Leeds, and think I saw a 9-coach IET (green, but without GWR branding) parked-up which I think was 800303 (we were going quite quick past it!) - would that be right?

Yes, according to reports in Rail it's ready and waiting for its turn - after all the 36 800/0s are delivered. 800302 has been out and testing on the GWR, and 800304 is a-building at Newton Aycliffe.
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« Reply #305 on: January 12, 2018, 10:15:44 pm »

After that earlier observation, I also managed my first IET ride, on the 1730 out of PAD this evening.

Very noticeable how the 5 coaches nearest the buffers were very full as I boarded, and the front 5 were half empty, so that's where I went for my short ride to RDG.

Feels bright and spacious. Seats do feel hard on first contact, but after a few mins got used to it, and the seat shape seems to encourage good posture. Whether I'd be so happy after a long journey I'm not so sure until I try it, but the Virgin East Cost 225 and HST I spent 4.5 hrs on altogether today did feel more comfortable, but less spacious.

Acceleration felt impressive as we were passing OOC and we reached RDG in 24 mins. Overall quite impressed.
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« Reply #306 on: January 12, 2018, 10:38:59 pm »

After a couple of journeys I'm not too fussed about the seats - they are firm, yes, but not really any more than the seat I spend most of my day typing away in.

What concerns me more is the luggage space: it feels like the lessons of the Voyagers have not been learned. Coach-end racks are smaller than HSTs or Eurostars. The "bike and bulk" rooms are small and ill-conceived. There is no equivalent of the carriage C space on an HST, which was informally the space where pushchairs would go if no wheelchairs required it. Even the gangways seem narrower than an HST, and I've very often seen suitcases or similar stashed in HST gangways.
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« Reply #307 on: January 13, 2018, 11:19:54 am »

I have concerns over luggage space too.  Hopefully the 802s will have more, reflecting their usage on the Cornish routes.
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« Reply #308 on: January 13, 2018, 11:26:47 am »

I have concerns over luggage space too.  Hopefully the 802s will have more, reflecting their usage on the Cornish routes.

Is there any reason, or rumour, for thinking they will?

If so, the most obvious way to do it would be to replace (some of) those windowless seats across the aisle from a luggage rack by more racks - though they'd probably be the same design.
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« Reply #309 on: January 13, 2018, 11:36:03 am »

Thereís something in the back of my mind about more luggage space, but that might be tied up with the buffet that was being considered before being dropped.
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« Reply #310 on: January 15, 2018, 07:31:30 am »

IET's splitting at Reading now ;-


13:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 14:43

Facilities on the 13:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 14:43.

Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10 between Reading and Bristol Temple Meads. Will divide at Reading, front 5 coaches only for Bristol Temple Meads via Swindon.

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This train will divide at Reading today, the front 5 coaches only continue to Bristol Temple Meads.
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« Reply #311 on: January 15, 2018, 08:23:51 am »

13:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 14:43

Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10 between Reading and Bristol Temple Meads. Will divide at Reading, front 5 coaches only for Bristol Temple Meads via Swindon.

Many times something that's intended as a one-off illustrates what could be done on a regular basis. Certain evening peak services from London are rammed to Reading then quieter beyond.

Why not take train like the 17:06 and 18:06 and drop 5 at Reading, coming back on an "opposite" service and then providing a further extra 5 cars out of Paddington some 90 minutes later?

Or how would the Cheltenham Spa and Bedwyn (or Westbury or regional train via Taunton) combine to use only one London - Reading slot during the day, with portion working beyond?
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« Reply #312 on: January 17, 2018, 07:13:47 pm »

I've now lost my IET virginity. As I only travel a single stop along the Cotswold Line - and as I sit most of the day at work - I choose to stand. The vestibule areas seem much smaller than on HSTs and 180s; it felt especially cramped with just six or seven standing today. The problem is increased since passengers for stations with short platforms are concentrated in just a couple of coaches. Early days, I know, but there is a sense of disappointment.

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« Reply #313 on: January 18, 2018, 11:06:18 pm »

MY first IET today.  CDF to PAD by HST and the reverse by IET so a chance to compare. 

Going (07:59) was mostly empty even though we added the cancelled 08:00 Paignton passengers.

Returning (15:45) was full so had to stand (with two others in the (small) vestibule until Reading.  The slightest movement triggered the automatic doors so I had to keep really still.  Got a seat then.  As is said, thin and hard but not uncomfortable although I felt a bit close to the bloke sitting next to me.  Better legroom than the Mk 3 airline seating.

Ride comfort seemed fairly comparable but perhaps not quite as good as a Mk 3.  The switch from volts to diesel caused a slight thump but apart from that was seamless.  The only obvious difference was some increase in vibration felt through the floor.  From outside, the IET sounds like a Voyager taking off but inside are a lot quieter.

The train manager's announcements were mostly inaudible, which was a nuisance as we were affected by a defect in the Down Main at Didcot but no-one could hear what was being said about it.  I had to rely on Journey Check.  I mentioned it politely to the TM when he checked the tickets but he didn't improve.

As we slowed down for Cardiff, he made the first audible announcement, which was a new one on me:

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Some of the toilets are out of toilet paper.  Please check before you use the toilet.  We will replenish the supply when we get to Swansea.

No, don't.   
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« Reply #314 on: January 19, 2018, 04:54:36 am »

Returning (15:45) was full so had to stand (with two others in the (small) vestibule until Reading.  The slightest movement triggered the automatic doors so I had to keep really still.  Got a seat then.

I think I said in my review a couple of months ago that I was surprised floor sensors had been fitted for that very reason.  One of the big faults with the HST Mk IIIís is when somebody is constantly activating the doors when stood in the vestibule, especially (as is often the case) if they are taking a mobile phone call, or chatting to a friend at what they think is an appropriate level due to the noise in the vestibule, but of course itís not for anyone sat in the saloon area!

Itís a much less intrusive problem on IETís though as the vestibule area is almost as quiet as the saloon area and the doors open almost silently compared with a huge Ďwhooshí on many of the Mk III doors.
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