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« on: October 02, 2017, 07:40:40 »

Is there a web site that lists engineering works and overruns?   A performance measure like the TOCs (Train Operating Company) have to get 99% done on time?    I ask because we only seem to hear the bad news - not the good news of those that work.

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Cancellations to services between Castle Cary and Yeovil Pen Mill
Due to engineering works not being finished on time between Castle Cary and Yeovil Pen Mill all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

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Cancellations to services between Bristol Parkway and Newport South Wales
Due to engineering works not being finished on time between Bristol Parkway and Newport South Wales fewer trains are able to run on some lines.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Further Information
An update will follow within the next 2 hours.
Replacement Road Transport will operate from Patchway to Bristol Parkway.
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 08:44:50 »

Only the Down Line (Pilning to Severn Tunnel Junction) appears to be blocked now (0845 on Monday 02/10/2017).  Trains are working bi-directionally using the Up Line.  Thats what the signalling was designed for, so good to see it put to some use..... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2017, 09:20:04 »

A Scotland to southwest Voyager I read yesterday had accumulated 366 minutes late due to overrunning engineering. I’d guess the bad weather is to blame.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2017, 09:34:07 »

A Scotland to southwest Voyager I read yesterday had accumulated 366 minutes late due to overrunning engineering. I’d guess the bad weather is to blame.

No, not quite.   2 HSTs (High Speed Train) and a Freight failed at locations between Edinburgh and York causing absolute chaos.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2017, 09:49:17 »

And prior to that, nothing southbound through Berwick before 1000 owing to the over run. It was only after that 1000 had started its journey did two later trains fail.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2017, 09:49:58 »

In answer to Graham's question, I din't think there is
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2017, 13:02:52 »

Only the Down Line (Pilning to Severn Tunnel Junction) appears to be blocked now (0845 on Monday 02/10/2017).  Trains are working bi-directionally using the Up Line.  Thats what the signalling was designed for, so good to see it put to some use..... Roll Eyes
Still shut at 1300.....
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2017, 13:47:11 »

Didn't / Doesn't journey check say "until end of service"?

Yep - both BPW» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) & WSB» (Westbury - next trains) are till then.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2017, 17:44:44 »

Looks like a complete mess now, with as well as all the above no trains now running between Temple Meads and Bath for the next few hours.  Lips sealed
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2017, 18:35:14 »

Looks like a complete mess now, with as well as all the above no trains now running between Temple Meads and Bath for the next few hours.  Lips sealed

The 17:36 Swindon to Westbury must have been rammed - with everyone from London to Chippenham who would have been on the 17:30 off Swindon trying to get on board.  Real Time Trains reports a late departure from Swindon and four minutes at Chippenham.  But even where a line is actually still open ...

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18:32 Westbury to Swindon due 19:23
18:32 Westbury to Swindon due 19:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

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20:06 Swindon to Westbury due 20:49
20:06 Swindon to Westbury due 20:49 will be cancelled.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

OK ... I would have thought there might have been a few crew with no-where to go at Westbury,  people at Westbury and Trowbridge looking to get to Bristol (and the sensible way being via Swindon tonight), and people wanting to get to and from Chippenham.    Perhaps  some of the Portsmouth to Cardiff trains are running to Swindon though?




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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2017, 18:53:06 »

Out of luck. Terminating either Westbury or Bath
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2017, 19:07:12 »

Out of luck. Terminating either Westbury or Bath

And there goes the one remaining southbound train ...

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17:40 Cheltenham Spa to Southampton Central due 20:44
17:40 Cheltenham Spa to Southampton Central due 20:44 will be terminated at Swindon.
It will no longer call at Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Dilton Marsh, Warminster, Salisbury, Romsey and Southampton Central.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2017, 19:08:36 »

Here's the current nationalrail.co.uk entry for the Castle Cary - Yeovil engineering overrun (my highlighting:

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Engineering works not being finished on time between Castle Cary and Yeovil Pen Mill means that trains will not run between these stations today.

What South Western Railway Are Doing About It:

The following cancellations and alterations will apply to South Western Railway services:

16:46 Yeovil Junction to Salisbury via Westbury is cancelled.
 - Replacement transport will operate between Yeovil Junction and Westbury. Replacement transport will connect at Westbury with the 19:04 Great Western Railway service to Portsmouth Harbour. (17:30 from Cardiff Central)

16:50 London Waterloo to Westbury via Gillingham will terminate at Yeovil Junction.
 - Replacement transport will operate between Yeovil Junction and Westbury.

18:50 London Waterloo to Westbury via Gillingham will terminate at Yeovil Junction.
 - Replacement transport will operate between Yeovil Junction and Westbury. Replacement transport will connect at Westbury with the 23:05 South Western Railway service to Salisbury. (22:23 from Bristol Temple Meads)

22:18 Westbury to Salisbury service will be cancelled.
 - Replacement transport is expected to operate between Westbury and Salisbury.
 - Passengers can join the 22:04 Great Western Railway service to Salisbury (20:30 From Cardiff Central)
 - Passengers can join the 23:05 South Western Railway service to Salisbury (22:23 from Bristol Temple Meads)

Customer Advice:

Great Western Railway and South Western Railway have mutual ticket acceptance via any reasonable route. Where possible, customers are advised to travel tomorrow (Tuesday 3 October). Great Western Railway tickets valid for travel today will be accepted for travel tomorrow.

I can't see any information anywhere on GWR (Great Western Railway)'s efforts to provide alternative transport (following the earlier note about no road transport).
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2017, 19:32:27 »

And there goes the one remaining southbound train ...

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17:40 Cheltenham Spa to Southampton Central due 20:44
17:40 Cheltenham Spa to Southampton Central due 20:44 will be terminated at Swindon.
It will no longer call at Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Dilton Marsh, Warminster, Salisbury, Romsey and Southampton Central.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

Ran as ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) Swindon-Westbury so presumably missing a conductor.
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2017, 19:56:41 »

2M18 - the Westbury to Cheltenham has managed to leave Westbury and trundle up via Melksham...

...pursued as far as Bradford Jn by the 1C91 Paddington-Paignton, which arrived at Westbury on time and departed (in the Bristol direction instead of Taunton) 34 late. Reason not known.

... and there are reports of a trespass incident at Weston super Mare causing disruption.

Not a good day...


... but the 2O00 Cheltenham-Southampton must have found a conductor at Westbury, as it's now restored as 2Z00 Westbury-Southampton.
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