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« on: February 29, 2008, 12:39:44 »

Northern Rail has been crowned ^Train Operator of the Year^ and ^Rail Business of the Year^ at the prestigious 10th annual HSBC Rail Business Awards (link below.)
http://www.northernrail.co.uk/news/462

Interestingly, in addition to winning the two prizes, Northern was highly commended in the ^Rolling Stock Excellence of the Year^ award.
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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 16:14:07 »

They only won it because the government love them.
They say they need stock so they get it. GRRR!
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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 17:34:40 »

Thing is qprrule, Northern, like pretty much every rail operator, FGW (First Great Western) included, DOES need the stock to cope with rising passenger numbers. Some of the most overcrowded trains in the country outside London are around Leeds and Manchester. Maybe their management team is just more persuasive and on better terms with DfT» (Department for Transport - about) and the train leasing firms than the people running FGW up until last autumn were.
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 19:33:28 »

Maybe their management team is just more persuasive and on better terms with DfT» (Department for Transport - about) and the train leasing firms than the people running FGW (First Great Western) up until last autumn were.

Bollocks. The difference is that the north is predominantly Labour whereas they don't have a hope in hell of being elected in the south west! Consequentially we get repeatedly screwed on everything including transport and allocation of rolling stock!
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 19:36:35 »

Coincidently FGW (First Great Western) won 2 awards, both for the HST (High Speed Train) refurb.
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 20:04:56 »

Coincidently FGW (First Great Western) won 2 awards, both for the HST (High Speed Train) refurb.
Which was very good.
P.S. Does anyone have a link to the awards?
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 20:06:51 »

http://www.railbusinessawards.com/winners.html
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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2008, 20:07:58 »

Thanks.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 20:13:30 »

Northern rail appear to run 91 pacers!!
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Bollocks. The difference is that the north is predominantly Labour whereas they don't have a hope in hell of being elected in the south west!

Ah, the conspiracy theory of rolling stock allocation. So if it's for political advantage, why are they taking trains from Labour-voting South Wales to give to FGW (First Great Western)?

And the last time I looked, Plymouth, Exeter and Bristol were in the South West, with seven Labour MPs (Member of Parliament) between them (and they held Camborne 1997-2005), plus, more widely, they have seats in FGW commuter territory out to Slough, as well as Reading, Oxford, Swindon, Gloucester, Worcester, Portsmouth, Southampton and Weymouth.

Lose that lot and they would be well on the way to defeat at the next general election, so if it's about politics, they should be pouring trains into FGW territory to shore up their support in 2009 or 2010, rather than wasting them on areas where they will win anyway.

Do you actually think that transport ministers, who usually seem to last no more than a year in the job under both the current Labour and past Tory regimes, have the time and enough knowledge of the rail system to cook up the kind of thing you are suggesting? The DfT» (Department for Transport - about) civil servants do what their fellow civil servants in the Treasury tell them to do - find the cheapest bodge-up way to do things - hence the franchise agreement FGW signed up to.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2008, 08:52:55 »

Northern rail appear to run 91 pacers!!

Recent related Parliamentary Written Answer :

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Mr. Atkinson: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport when she expects refurbished rolling stock to be available for Northern Rail services on its Newcastle to Carlisle line; and when Pacer trains will be decommissioned.

Mr. Tom Harris: Decisions on deployment of rolling stock rest with the franchisee, Northern Rail. The department understands there are no plans to withdraw Pacer trains from service.
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