Strategic vision for rail.

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[martyjon]

Grayling:   New routes for old, new routes for old.

[chuffed]

I see Bristol to Portishead tops the list at 2.43

[Henry]

 
 https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2017/11/28-bold-plan-unveiled-to-expand.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 Yet yesterday I read 55bn Euro's for our 'Brexit Divorce'.

 Hate to sound negative (yet again), but unless some 'private finance' is available, where's the money come from ?
 

 

[TaplowGreen]

Shouldn't there be a question mark after the title of this thread?

[ChrisB]

Yet yesterday I read 55bn Euro's for our 'Brexit Divorce'.

 Hate to sound negative (yet again), but unless some 'private finance' is available, where's the money come from ?

If we remain in the EU^» (European Union - about), that £50billion would be what we would still pay as *part* of our contribution, plus any more that would be agreed while we remain. So getting out will still be cheaper than staying in, don't forget. That money is spent whichever happens

[Red Squirrel]

 https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2017/11/28-bold-plan-unveiled-to-expand.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 Yet yesterday I read 55bn Euro's for our 'Brexit Divorce'.

 Hate to sound negative (yet again), but unless some 'private finance' is available, where's the money come from ?
 

It was never going to come from central government. In the unlikely event that a British government faced up to the need to increase taxation across the board, they'd be looking to redress the calamitous under-funding of health, education and a dozen other things. They'd never get as far as considering infrastructure.

When I heard about this 'vision' earlier today, I thought 'Surely they can't just be re-re-re-announcing East-West Rail, Portishead and so on..?

Sometimes I think I'm a cynic, and other times I think it takes quite a lot of optimism to bother getting out of bed. Pah!

[Red Squirrel]

So getting out will still be cheaper than staying in, don't forget.

In the round, I very strongly doubt that.

[Andy]

 So getting out will still be cheaper than staying in, don't forget. That money is spent whichever happens

The second half of the sentence is true: the 55bn or whatever sum is finally agreed upon will be what the UK^▸ (United Kingdom) already owes, and is money spent whether in or out.

However, I'm not sure that the first part of the sentence holds. Time will tell. 

[ChrisB]

It'll be an unknown unfortunately - but yu can bet that if we stay in, we would agree budgets worth more than currently, so we would spend further money if we stay in.

[Red Squirrel]

It'll be an unknown unfortunately

You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows...