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Author Topic: News from TfL re: Hayes & Harlington Redevelopment  (Read 7598 times)
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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2018, 09:36:24 am »

West Drayton - another unfinished building site. Inaccessible ticket machines - perfect excuse for the chancers of West Drayton to board sans tickets - if they are caught.

But the whole issue of these ticket machines is that they DON'T accept cash. This is blatant discrimination against anyone who doesn't have a credit card - like millions of under age kids for a start.
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2018, 10:13:08 am »

West Drayton - another unfinished building site. Inaccessible ticket machines - perfect excuse for the chancers of West Drayton to board sans tickets - if they are caught.

But the whole issue of these ticket machines is that they DON'T accept cash. This is blatant discrimination against anyone who doesn't have a credit card - like millions of under age kids for a start.

I thought that the deal was, having taken over the ticket offices, TfL would ensure that they were manned throughout operating hours in order that tickets could be purchased over the counter?
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2018, 08:39:36 pm »

More shock horror from the TfL takeover.

It appears that the HConn stock is being used for the Hayes - Pad shuttles. No more wifi, no more tables, thread bare seats (from idiot tourists putting feet on them), toilets that don't work, etc. They are still the same sickly grey and orange, but with small TfL roundels for branding. The mind boggles. 

Also today there were the usual daily Heathrow Term. 4 cancellations. i.e. no or few HConn services regardless of stock.

All par for the course.
 
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2018, 11:01:31 pm »

Signal failure at T2/3, closing T4 branch since mid-afternoon, hence TfL Rail operating 1 tph service Pad-Hayes and 1 tph service to T5, although TfL Twitter account announcing services terminating and beginning at T2/3.

There was also a problem for quite a while closing the Up Main at Southall.
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2018, 11:05:03 pm »

Signal failure at T2/3, closing T4 branch since mid-afternoon, hence TfL Rail operating 1 tph service Pad-Hayes and 1 tph service to T5, although TfL Twitter account announcing services terminating and beginning at T2/3.

There was also a problem for quite a while closing the Up Main at Southall.

And I wonder how many for Heathrow missed their flights?

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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2018, 11:57:40 pm »

More shock horror from the TfL takeover.

It appears that the HConn stock is being used for the Hayes - Pad shuttles. No more wifi, no more tables, thread bare seats (from idiot tourists putting feet on them), toilets that don't work, etc. They are still the same sickly grey and orange, but with small TfL roundels for branding. The mind boggles. 

Also today there were the usual daily Heathrow Term. 4 cancellations. i.e. no or few HConn services regardless of stock.

All par for the course.
 
I believe it will be normal Crossrail stock (345) for Hayes-Pad and existing 360s (Connect trains) for Heathrow to Pad.

Worth noting that won't have the issue of toilets not working when the 345s fully take over..as they don't have any.
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« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2018, 12:20:29 am »

More shock horror from the TfL takeover.
It appears that the HConn stock is being used for the Hayes - Pad shuttles.
I believe it will be normal Crossrail stock (345) for Hayes-Pad and existing 360s (Connect trains) for Heathrow to Pad...
For a transitional period until the Heathrow branch signalling is made to work with 345s.  I thought this had been widely discussed for a few months, it shouldn’t have been a surprise to CJB.

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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2018, 02:43:49 pm »

More shock horror from the TfL takeover.

It appears that the HConn stock is being used for the Hayes - Pad shuttles ... 

And GWR has not been slow in advertising that there are now additional 12-car 387 sets.

Until maybe some go off to be HEX-ified.
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« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2018, 03:02:29 am »

Last evening I caught a purple TfL pack-em-in cattle train back from Paddington to the permanent building site that is Hayes Station. They didn't have first aid available when I got off - my back side was SORE after 20 minutes sitting on the concrete hard seats!!! When we got held up outside Ealing B. there were no driver announcements - just a digital Dorothy in some kind of pseudo-'posh' English. No toilets - not even for the disabled. No low entrances for wheelchair users to board. No tables. No wifi. No comfort. At least the doors didn't drop off - as reported on the Eastern Section of this grossly over-budget-monies-now-run-out 'Tin Lizzie Line.' I never thought that I'd say it but "bring back GWR or even BR."
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« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2018, 10:10:57 am »

More shock horror from the TfL takeover.

It appears that the HConn stock is being used for the Hayes - Pad shuttles. No more wifi, no more tables, thread bare seats (from idiot tourists putting feet on them), toilets that don't work, etc. They are still the same sickly grey and orange, but with small TfL roundels for branding. The mind boggles. 

Also today there were the usual daily Heathrow Term. 4 cancellations. i.e. no or few HConn services regardless of stock.

All par for the course.
 

Worth noting that won't have the issue of toilets not working when the 345s fully take over..as they don't have any.

Just like cattle trains - no toilets. What are folks to do, especially the disabled or infirm? Maybe we all need to bring water bottles as T4L keep advising - but empty ones.
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« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2018, 10:54:59 am »

Just like cattle trains - no toilets. What are folks to do, especially the disabled or infirm? Maybe we all need to bring water bottles as T4L keep advising - but empty ones.

Just like all underground trains - no toilets.  What are folks to do?

Don't get me wrong mind you, I am of the opinion that all national rail trains, including Crossrail ones, should have toilets.   The low entrances without any stepping will be available at all Elizabeth Line only stations (i.e. the new ones), but differing platform heights and different train designs stopping at existing stations makes that impossible at the existing ones I'm afraid.
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« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2018, 04:31:11 pm »

Just like cattle trains - no toilets. What are folks to do, especially the disabled or infirm? Maybe we all need to bring water bottles as T4L keep advising - but empty ones.

Just like all underground trains - no toilets.  What are folks to do?


Speaking as someone who occasionally goes all the way from Ealing Broadway to Debden on the Central Line without benefit of toilets, I feel your pain! (so to speak!!!)
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« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2018, 04:41:12 pm »

At least the seats are soft. Crassrail trains the seats are like concrete. Breeze blocks would be an improvement.
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« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2018, 05:12:50 pm »

At least the seats are soft. Crassrail trains the seats are like concrete. Breeze blocks would be an improvement.

To be honest, with the introduction of Crossrail the daily commute to my office will be halved, perching on a breeze block-esque seat in that context is a small price to pay, for me anyway...…….if worst comes to worst I'll bring a cushion!  Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2018, 06:56:54 pm »

At least the seats are soft. Crassrail trains the seats are like concrete. Breeze blocks would be an improvement.

I found them to be softer than the seats on a GWR Class 387 that they’re replacing.
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