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Author Topic: IETs to Bedwyn delayed  (Read 2900 times)
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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2018, 02:46:40 pm »

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Long answer there ... basic answer is "it's not JUST Bedwyn" ...

Also not yet mentioned is that Bedwyn serves Marlborough, probably the largest and most affluent town in the immediate area.

Bedwyn is slightly closer to Marlborough (and closer to London, and better served) than Pewsey is.
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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2018, 02:59:16 pm »

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Long answer there ... basic answer is "it's not JUST Bedwyn" ...

Also not yet mentioned is that Bedwyn serves Marlborough, probably the largest and most affluent town in the immediate area.

Bedwyn is slightly closer to Marlborough (and closer to London, and better served) than Pewsey is.

And much cheaper fares to London too. Example - anytime (period) return Pewsey to London - £116. Anytime (day) return, Bedwyn to London, £61.20 ... those are 2018 fares.  Slightly less marked difference on off peaks, but still a saving at Bedwyn.
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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2018, 04:01:27 pm »

Don't forget BEDWYN is the boundary for DOO Operation.  Extending beyond there adds costs.
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« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2018, 02:57:05 pm »

Don't forget BEDWYN is the boundary for DOO Operation.  Extending beyond there adds costs.


Why?
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« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2018, 03:12:33 pm »

Because it was the boundary for Network SouthEast services when that was set up and DOO services were established in the early 90s when the Turbos arrived.

There is an agreement not to extend the boundaries of DOO between the Unions and GWR, so whilst not impossible, it would involve a lot of politics.
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« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2018, 04:14:24 pm »


There is an agreement not to extend the boundaries of DOO between the Unions and GWR, so whilst not impossible, it would involve a lot of politics.

aka a lot of noise about safety & a strike threat, which would magically disappear when additional pay is offered!  Wink
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« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2018, 05:43:09 pm »

... which would magically disappear when additional pay is offered!  Wink

Possibly not given recent experience on Southern and South Western
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« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2018, 05:50:14 pm »

Yes, indeed.  I should’ve added politics to my list on my previous post.  Wink

Dunno about about added - it should have been the first item on the paper! But for politics, it would probably have been all electric decades ago, with a mixture of fast and stopping trains throughout.
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« Reply #53 on: December 28, 2018, 06:24:55 pm »

... which would magically disappear when additional pay is offered!  Wink

Possibly not given recent experience on Southern and South Western

Yes indeed.  GWR have been wise (and a little fortunate) in not getting bogged down in lengthy disputes with their new trains.  They'd be foolish to risk the relatively good relationship with the unions in that regard with trying for an extension to Westbury, which although desirable, is not of the up-most importance.
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« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2018, 06:33:49 pm »

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Yes indeed.  GWR have been wise (and a little fortunate) in not getting bogged down in lengthy disputes with their new trains.  They'd be foolish to risk the relatively good relationship with the unions in that regard with trying for an extension to Westbury, which although desirable, is not of the up-most importance.

It is though sad that this lack of flexibility hinders extending a well-tried working practice a little further west to help make a better service down the Berks & Hants viable. 
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« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2018, 09:14:26 am »

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Yes indeed.  GWR have been wise (and a little fortunate) in not getting bogged down in lengthy disputes with their new trains.  They'd be foolish to risk the relatively good relationship with the unions in that regard with trying for an extension to Westbury, which although desirable, is not of the up-most importance.

It is though sad that this lack of flexibility hinders extending a well-tried working practice a little further west to help make a better service down the Berks & Hants viable. 

Yes a wise and fortunate position to take.

However, sad because the problems with DOO seem to be more to do with the busy stations nearer to London. Stations such as Bedwyn and Pewsey seem to be more suited to DOO. 
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