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Author Topic: Station stops cancelled 1/8/18  (Read 267 times)
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« on: August 01, 2018, 08:00:50 pm »

I had to go to Chippenham for work today. From Bridport one can either go from Crewkerne or from Maiden Newton. Having seen the first down service from the latter on time I chose to go by GWR.
Returning early I decided to stop off at Bradford on Avon for a bit of late lunch and a walk by the canal. The aim was to catch the 1522 to Weymouth. It was on the board as 22 late and was then cancelled!
At 1541 a train came through without stopping, 150001. Clearly they had decided to skips the stops between Bath and Westbury. It was announced that the next service was 2HOURS later!
Annoyingly the return working of 150001 waits at Yeovil for 7 minutes and so, with smart working, was the skip stopping needed?

To make the most of a bad thing I caught the next Portsmouth to Westbury, followed by the Cornishman to Castle Cary and a wait in the sun for the next Weymouth.
Looking at RTT over a few days this does not seem too uncommon.
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2018, 09:07:37 pm »

Annoyingly the return working of 150001 waits at Yeovil for 7 minutes and so, with smart working, was the skip stopping needed?

Looking at RTT over a few days this does not seem too uncommon.

The Heart of Wessex has a lot of single track sections - so a delay headed south can quickly get mirrored back into a delay headed north.  And between Westbury and Castle Cary they've also go to be able to thread through without getting in the way of West of  England trains.

I have certainly seen cases where a train has failed to make stops or missed incoming connections by a whisker just to wait time not very far down the line (never mind your 'on the return journey') and it is highly frustrating - the balance doesn't feel right in those cases.   If there's little chance of catching up until the return journey, it feels more justified.

But the real solution is to reduce the number and severity of the issue that cause the initial delay - so that there is little or nothing to fix.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2018, 09:17:40 pm »

The train is the return working of a Southampton to Great Malvern service. It seems to have been delayed going to Malvern Wells to cross over prior to return.
On occasion they have turned back the Weymouth service at Dorchester West. At least there passengers have the chance to catch a service from South station.

The choice of the SWR route via Salisbury, although it takes longer, at least gives an hourly service and will be the preferred choice in future.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2018, 09:52:23 pm »

The train is the return working of a Southampton to Great Malvern service. It seems to have been delayed going to Malvern Wells to cross over prior to return.
On occasion they have turned back the Weymouth service at Dorchester West. At least there passengers have the chance to catch a service from South station.

The choice of the SWR route via Salisbury, although it takes longer, at least gives an hourly service and will be the preferred choice in future.

Know the train well - it's the 06:38 at Melksham  Grin Grin

Looking at feeds, it stuck me it left Bath Spa just five minutes ahead of the time the Portsmouth train was due, so cutting out stops at 6 stations probably helped get it back on time; from 39 late at Cheltenham Spa, that had been reduced to just 7 late at Weymouth.  For stations like Keynsham it meant a 60 minute delay rather that 30, for Bradford-on-Avon and Trowbridge, the skipping turned a 30 delay on the Weymouth train to a few minutes longer using the Portsmouth - the fly in the ointment being passengers such as yourself, bradshaw, travelling from an intermediate station north of Westbury to a station south of Westbury on the Weymouth line.

Turning this one back at Dorchester not a good idea - for sure people headed south can walk across Dorchester.   But headed back north, on what's a really busy train for leisure traffic - the 17:30 - would mean a 17:20 departure with just 11 minutes to dash across Dorchester - prams, kiddies ...

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2018, 09:18:00 am »

Yes, probably the best thing to do. However the line is not the most reliable currently and I wonder about the value of extending beyond Gloucester. I know this is mentioned in the GWR review.

I wonder if the next GWR franchise might have a ‘Salisbury’ type DMU hub, feeding the services radiating from Westbury, rather like SWR.

On the brighter side, I did get my first experience of the IET, complete with a fully operational 10 car set. The five car return from Chippenham reached 100mph at Box.
To complete the day, the crew on the HST Cornishman were exemplary.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2018, 10:27:34 am »

This line should be separated from between BTM and GCR. Additionally, run an extra Bristol - Worcester service which would give an extra service to Worcester.

Gloucester MP has said that he is working on a every 30m Bristol service so we will have to wait and see.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2018, 10:49:04 am »

This line should be separated from between BTM and GCR. Additionally, run an extra Bristol - Worcester service which would give an extra service to Worcester.

Gloucester MP has said that he is working on a every 30m Bristol service so we will have to wait and see.

Why this is done is that creating more through trains reduces the number of units required and avoids additional shunting moves and lengthy platform occupation at Bristol TM.   Such moves can only add to congestion leading on, of course, to delays.   The norm is that if a train from the Gloucester direction, perhaps, is running late a fresh train is started up at "Right Time".
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2018, 01:14:16 pm »

The 1251 Gt Malvern to Weymouth has, over the last 8 weeks, a 24% arrival time+5min. It’s average delay is 27 mins.
Today it was started from Worcester Foregate, due to late arrival of incoming service.

http://www.recenttraintimes.co.uk/Home/Search?Op=Srch&Fr=Great+Malvern+%28GMV%29&To=Maiden+Newton+%28MDN%29&TimTyp=D&TimDay=10a&Days=Wk&TimPer=8w&dtFr=&dtTo=&ShwTim=AvAr&MxArCl=10&TOC=All&ArrSta=5&MetAvg=Mea&MetSpr=RT&MxScDu=&MxSvAg=&MnScCt=
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