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Author Topic: The fair weather railway?  (Read 3008 times)
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« on: October 12, 2018, 04:03:22 am »

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07:30 Carmarthen to London Paddington due 11:32
07:30 Carmarthen to London Paddington due 11:32 will be started from Swansea.
It will no longer call at Carmarthen, Ferryside, Kidwelly, Pembrey & Burry Port and Llanelli.
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12:16 Liskeard to Looe due 12:45
12:16 Liskeard to Looe due 12:45 will be cancelled.
This is due to forecasted severe weather.

Have weather cancellations become more common place, or has reporting made them more visible?

Will Cross Country be running south of Exeter today?   GWR services with IETs?
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2018, 06:30:45 am »

More info from the GWR website:
https://www.gwr.com/about-us/media-centre/info

I am particularly concerned about parts of Wales with the persistence of the band of rain siting itself over the country.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2018, 06:43:26 am »

Carmarthenís not expected to run for most/all of the day.
Liskard-Looe cancelled throughout on JourneyCheck.

Tree on the line earlier so a Penzance service is running 110 minutes behind schedule and is also carrying CrossCountry passengers. Itís fine in my neck of the woods but Iím surprised the leaves on the track excuse has not been used yet.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2018, 06:56:04 am »

No Cross Country Voyagers to operate along the seawall before 10:00.   Yesterday they were saying no service throughout Cornwall today with all services starting/terminating at Exeter until after high tide and then Plymouth but that seems to have been rescinded.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2018, 07:31:01 am »

The first up IET to Paddington (1A72 0553 Plymouth) passed Dawlish without incident around 0640. That was the up line though and high tide isn't until around 0920. First IET beyond Exeter (1C71 0635 Paddington) is due past at around 0855. Be interesting to see how that gets on. Could be running bang road.

As I type, waves are starting to splash the tracks alongside Marine Parade, as seen on the Blenheim Guest House webcam.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2018, 07:41:52 am »

With the weather that is forecast, I am not sure I would park a car there....

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2018, 08:07:34 am »

Carmarthenís not expected to run for most/all of the day.
Liskard-Looe cancelled throughout on JourneyCheck.

Tree on the line earlier so a Penzance service is running 110 minutes behind schedule and is also carrying CrossCountry passengers. Itís fine in my neck of the woods but Iím surprised the leaves on the track excuse has not been used yet.

Can understand about Looe - has anyone even costed what it would take to solve this?  Raising the track I suppose. 

Trees - If NR clear the trees they are in trouble and if they do not then they get in trouble. Can't win really!
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2018, 08:11:27 am »

Screenshot from San Remo cam at Dawlish at 0808:



Pretty angry.

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2018, 08:52:19 am »

I had the opportunity to visit a certain control centre in Swindon during the late afternoon and early evening yesterday,most interesting to see the massive amount of hard work,that is put in by the staff from both NR & GWR when having to deal with the  Weather that we are currently experiencing .
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2018, 09:18:32 am »

GWR seem to have chickened out. 1C71, the 0635 PAD-PNZ was a HST today. Here it is passing Dawlish, getting a wash.

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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2018, 09:22:15 am »

GWR seem to have chickened out. 1C71, the 0635 PAD-PNZ was a HST today.
Won't be able to do that for much longer.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2018, 09:44:49 am »

GWR seem to have chickened out. 1C71, the 0635 PAD-PNZ was a HST today.
Won't be able to do that for much longer.


I may be being a little unfair on GWR. Could be a result of stock displacement after last night's problems with a tree down at Devonport.

1CO4 0730 PAD-PNZ due through around 1030. That's also booked as an IET.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2018, 09:57:05 am »

We do seem to increasingly have a fair weather only railway.
Any reasonable person would expect disruption in truly extreme weather, but we seem to face increasing disruption in what might be called seasonal weather rather than truly extreme conditions.

A good comparison in my view is the effects of the weather on other transport, if roads and airlines are significantly disrupted, then one might expect railways to also suffer.

What is not in my view acceptable is frequent severe  railway disruption "due to severe weather" when main roads and airlines are operating normally.

Both network rail and TOCs need more robust plans for wind, rain, snow and hot weather.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2018, 10:43:19 am »

It is (and has been) raining a lot here in Carmarthenshire but its wet rather than stormy.

I've also just had a shed installed by a company who drove down from Yorkshire early this morning and they didn't seem to have any problems getting here. Very impressed watching them build a shed in the dark, in the rain
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2018, 10:51:38 am »

Very impressed watching them build a shed in the dark, in the rain

They're from Yorkshire. It's nobut a bit damp lad!
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