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Author Topic: Network Rail Cotswold Line Double-Tracking Announcement Delayed?  (Read 13739 times)
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2008, 16:04:06 »

Station work-wise there would have to be new platforms at Charlbury and Ascott-under-Wychwood, but at Honeybourne, the old island platform (Stratford-upon-Avon and Cheltenham services used the opposite face) is pretty much intact and could be brought back into use relatively easily. The question here is whether the whole length would be restored to use, as it could probably take a 2+8 HST (High Speed Train), in contrast to the three-coach platform on the single line.

Not clear on footbridge locations (though CBY and HYB are obvious), but if they are going to spend the money, then Kingham really could do with a new disabled/cycle/baby buggy-accessible bridge while they are at it, because if you can't manage steps, then you can't reach the Oxford/London-bound platform at present.

After questions about parking at Charlbury station - and people leaving cars in the town and walking down to the station - Dave Ward, Network Rail's western route director, said at the meeting tonight that he would be taking up the issue of providing adequate car parking at all the stations on the route with the team in charge of the project, as station facilities are very much part of the equation.

More parking could be tricky, as previously noted, at Shipton. And new housing at Honeybourne has eaten up what would have been an ideal area to extend into, though there is a lot of railway-owned land on the opposite side, behind the island platform, with disused sidings on, so maybe there is parking potential there.

However, if the shortlisted eco-town at Long Marston were to go ahead (and it would only make eco-sense if the rail link through to Stratford upon Avon is reinstated - and maybe even to Cheltenham via the Gloucester & Warwickshire preserved line - then they may need to reinvent Honeybourne Junction in all its four-platform glory, along with the spectacular triangular and burrowing junctions just to the east (the GWR (Great Western Railway) didn't do things by halves in the 1900s). How about a Birmingham-Worcester-Evesham-Honeybourne-Long Marston-Stratford-Birmingham circular route and Stratford-Oxford via the Cotswold Line?

And let's not forget Chipping Campden, where Gloucestershire County Council has long had aspirations to reopen the station. Until now, lack of capacity on the single line has always stymied this, but a green light for double track would change the equation here.

Certainly interesting times in these parts.

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Shame it will take so long...

Give them a break - in rail project terms, this is warp speed. They are talking 15 months of work, while keeping trains running for as much of that time as possible. All told it would be just over three years from starting study work to completion, which compares pretty well with Chiltern's redoubling schemes.

Now all we've got to do is hope that D(a)fT and the ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) see sense.

I wasn't moaning as such, just wishing someone could wave a magic wand!

Unfortunately, a new road has eaten the track-bed south of Stratford upon Avon station. Angry

The Gloucester and Warwickshire railway (GWR) want to extend from their current Broadway**, to Honeybourne and then to Stratford Racecourse (thereby linking the two race courses. This might use the island platform!!!!

Can any of the existing platforms (e.g. Honeybourne) be extended, to as near to HST length as possible?

Are all new platforms (except on the halts) be HST length, to prevent the need for SDO (Selective Door Opening)?

This is great news.

**The GWR have bought trackbed up to Broadway, and are currently extending from Toddington.
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2008, 01:27:13 »

Re Stratford, the councils were warned about the consequences for rail reinstatement when they decided to build over the trackbed, but if the eco-town does go ahead, the developers will have to stump up for rebuilding the route into Stratford, whatever it costs.

Their brochure http://www.stratford.gov.uk/files/seealsodocs/7963/Long%20Marston%20Eco-Town%20Proposal%20-%20Oct%202007.pdf doesn't mention Cheltenham, but does talk about connecting to Worcester and Oxford via the Cotswold Line, so they would also have to foot the bill for the work that would be needed at Honeybourne, and why not Evesham to Norton junction double track while they're at it, as I don't really see how you could put many more trains through that section without redoubling.

It would be less of a problem redoubling straight away at that end of the line (hook up some colour-light signals to the many spare levers at Evesham signal box until they get round to looking at Worcester area resignalling) than trying to go through from Finstock to Oxford, as that is tied up with resignalling at Oxford - due 2014-15. Dave Ward made it clear that it just wasn't cost-effective to try to graft something on to the existing system at Oxford, but that when resignalling is due, redoubling would be on the agenda, providing the current plans have been approved and implemented.

I don't know the detail at this stage (Network Rail are still doing a lot of design work), but there's almost certainly space to build full-length platforms at Charlbury and Honeybourne (where BR (British Rail(ways)) had removed the long platform before the reopening), but Ascott would logically be Turbo-sized - though for at least three cars, rather than two, and they really could do with adding a few metres on to the existing one at the same time, to make it able to take a three-car set properly. It's about two-and-a-half (three old DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) cars?) right now.
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2008, 14:35:47 »

If anyone wants to see the post-1909 track layout at Honeybourne, I just remembered that Western Main Lines: Moreton-in-Marsh to Worcester, by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith (Middleton Press), has reproductions of the large-scale Ordnance Survey maps of the junctions and station, plus photos of the station in GWR (Great Western Railway) and BR (British Rail(ways)) steam days and how it looks today, showing the current platform and the remains of the island.

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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2008, 18:40:47 »

Re Stratford, the councils were warned about the consequences for rail reinstatement when they decided to build over the trackbed, but if the eco-town does go ahead, the developers will have to stump up for rebuilding the route into Stratford, whatever it costs.

Good, it will serve them right! Grin Grin Grin

And then: 4 platforms at Honeybourne, with full GWR (Great Western Railway) replica canopy anyone? Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 08:04:53 »

willc article link.
http://www.oxfordmail.net/news/headlines/display.var.2177818.0.railway_updates_farreaching_benefits.php

Quote from: Dave Ward
"Between now and the first week in June, all who feel passionately about this need to undertake some lobbying on the potential benefits."

Quote from: David Cameron
"It's hugely exciting to hear this. I will get together all the MPs (Member of Parliament) along the Cotswold Line to write to the Rail Minister and push the case before June."
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 20:22:58 »

This is where my petition comes in. It has plenty of signatures. Please email the url to people (MPs (Member of Parliament) from the area etc.) to let NR» (Network Rail - home page) know that there IS support!
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2008, 07:50:55 »

Good News this but credit also has to made to FGW (First Great Western) and Andrew Haines who are heavily involved in this scheme but dont seem to have been mentioned in prevoius posts
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2008, 08:32:20 »

Good News this but credit also has to made to FGW (First Great Western) and Andrew Haines who are heavily involved in this scheme but dont seem to have been mentioned in prevoius posts

willc has mentioned FGW and Andrew Haines involvement in his articles, and this has also been mentioned in previous related posts/topics.
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2008, 15:01:24 »

Briefly donning my professional hat for a moment, there is only so much space and so many words you get for articles and at this point the key thing to get across was what Network Rail actually propose to do and what they were saying about it, as the organisation actually driving the process. FGW (First Great Western)'s support for it is pretty much taken as a given by people along the route.
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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2008, 19:23:49 »

As I visit Stratford about once a week to visit elderly mother I read stuff in the local paper about the eco-town at Long Marston. Some weeks ago the developers were talking about reinstating (don't they mean "upgrading"/putting back like wot used to be) the line to Honeybourne for access to Worcester - nothing about access to Stratford, although that's clearly as logical or more so. You're right about the old trackbed south of Stratford station as another relative of mine owned a flat in a block built on the old embankment, but the line could be put back with some road re-arrangement.

Whilst at it, makes sense to reopen to Cheltenham, although the Waitrose development has interfered with the route of the old through line to Malvern Road station and the junction with the existing main line at Lansdowne Road. But apparently the so-called "Honeybourne Way" was developed so as to allow the track to be relayed.

Incidentally, some warehouses have been built across the old trackbed by the former level crossing in Station Road Long Marston. And as regards, the GWR (Great Western Railway)'s proposals to get to Stratford Racecourse, I'm not sure the end of the existing trackbed south of Stratford is that near the racecourse.
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