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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2019, 08:02:00 am »

Here you go, TG.  Happy chortling!

https://www.railbusinessawards.com/railbusinessawards2019/en/page/2019-shortlist
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2019, 08:12:32 am »

If you have not seen it the HoC Library Briefing Paper is at:
http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CDP-2019-0023/CDP-2019-0023.pdf
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2019, 09:11:44 am »

Can I also point you towards the Modern Railways Golden Whistle Awards 2019:
Operational Performance London & South East- Silver Award GWR

https://modern-railways.keypublishing.com/2019/01/28/whistles-celebrate-operational-excellence/
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2019, 12:51:20 pm »

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Here you go, TG.  Happy chortling!

https://www.railbusinessawards.com/railbusinessawards2019/en/page/2019-shortlist

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I think this should carry a health warning before anyone opens it!  Some of the awards may cause severe distress to some forum members. In particular, our large and vocal cohort of IET critics may want to take their medication first!

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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2019, 01:30:56 pm »

Interesting to note that the "Train Operator of the Year" nominees include only one franchised TOC, Greater Anglia. The others are a concession metro service, Docklands Light Railway, and the Rail Delivery Group. That shortlist shows just how poor franchised TOCs have been recently.

Quite how that last one can be nominated as "Train Operator of the Year" is beyond me. They operate no trains at all.
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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2019, 01:31:11 pm »

Well one large critic of IETs is disgusted to see that the introduction of same has been shortlisted for an award. I will be even more appalled if they win an award.

Delivered late.
Don't work reliably.

And a substantial downgrade to passenger comfort and facilities.

Perhaps somone needs to organise a rival competition with awards for the following.

Worst TOC of the year.
Worst major station of the year.
Worst mid sized station of the year.
Worst small station of the year.
Least reliable ticket machine
Least reliable station lifts.

Worst existing rolling stock.
Worst new rolling stock.

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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2019, 01:47:58 pm »

Interesting to note that the "Train Operator of the Year" nominees include only one franchised TOC, Greater Anglia. The others are a concession metro service, Docklands Light Railway, and the Rail Delivery Group. That shortlist shows just how poor franchised TOCs have been recently.

Quite how that last one can be nominated as "Train Operator of the Year" is beyond me. They operate no trains at all.

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Is there a separate organisation called "Rail Operations Group" which is distinct from the Rail Delivery Group? ... Google search took me to https://www.railopsgroup.co.uk ...

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Train Operating Services ... what ROG do
New fleet deliveries
New fleet testing, commissioning and fault free running
Provision of Signal Protection Zones (SPZ)
Fleet transfers and cascade programmes
Fleet movements for refurbishment and modification programmes
Fleet storage.
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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2019, 02:11:38 pm »

I stand corrected and embarrassed. I saw "Rail" and "Group" and jumped to an incorrect conclusion. Embarrassed

Still, only one franchised TOC nominated.
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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2019, 02:14:21 pm »

Worst existing rolling stock.

That one's fairly easy if based on reliabilty. It's a two horse race between:

Hull Trains' Class 180s
GWR's HSTs.
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« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2019, 02:38:27 pm »

Still, only one franchised TOC nominated.

I had never even heard of the "Railway Operations Group" ... but then as they don't operate trains in passenger service as far as I can tell,  why would we (as a passenger group) have come across them??
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« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2019, 04:35:18 pm »

Yes, some very dubious nominations in amongst that lot.  However, in my opinion it would be appropriate to see the arrangements for the Royal Wedding acknowledged as that was an event which really was well organised by both GWR and SWR.  The people on the ground on the day as well as those who did the preparatory logistics.
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« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2019, 04:50:29 pm »

Worst existing rolling stock.

That one's fairly easy if based on reliabilty. It's a two horse race between:

Hull Trains' Class 180s
GWR's HSTs.

Reliability matters, but is not the only factor.
Train length.
Seating comfort, including legroom, at a table, window view etc.
Catering.
Other facilities such as wifi, power outlets, luggage and cycle space, heating, cooling and lighting.
And the reliability with which the train turns up, which can differ from overall fleet reliability.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2019, 10:24:37 pm »

Yes, some very dubious nominations in amongst that lot.  However, in my opinion it would be appropriate to see the arrangements for the Royal Wedding acknowledged as that was an event which really was well organised by both GWR and SWR.  The people on the ground on the day as well as those who did the preparatory logistics.

I wasn't aware that the "arrangements for the Royal Wedding" were made by GWR?

 "Get me to the Church on time" would have been quite a challenge if that had been the case! ☺.

I'm sure the extra stops at Slough & extra Windsor shuttle capacity was appreciated.....but surely not THAT much of a logistical triumph compared to (for example) Glastonbury?

........or......(whisper it quietly)........is a certain invisible Mark in line to become Sir Mark in recognition of his Herculean efforts on Harry & Meghan's behalf???

Let's hope her Majesty's hand is as steady with the sword as ever should that be the case! 😃
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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2019, 07:04:37 am »

Quite a challenge in my opinion.  A largely unique event compared to your example of Glastonbury which is (pretty much) the same thing every year with similar arrangements - though usually also done very well.
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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2019, 08:20:59 am »

Is there a link to the Hansard record of the event.
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