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« on: August 01, 2019, 20:35:12 »

Just happened to see this going into Warminster this afternoon - going Salisbury direction. Was hoping that it might be coming back a little later, but RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) told me it wasn't. Is there anywhere that might give advance notice of another visit from this unusual train ?
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2019, 20:45:57 »

It'll be back on the same diagram in 5 weeks. You can see it on the Westbury avoider tomorrow (Friday) when it visits Penzance.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2019, 22:29:34 »

Many thanks for that. If I follow the times for tomorrow correctly, I will look for it at Heywood Rd Jct at 1930 (ish). Westbury White Horse hill with my 600mm lens might be a good bet.
I'll keep an eye out in 5 weeks as well for a visit to Warminster.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2019, 09:50:56 »

You can try following the NMT through RTT» (Real Time Trains - website), to see its future workings. However, there are several of those per day, so it's easier just to look at future workings at Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail). Some of those are other things, so you need to check them individually (having guessed which look likely NMT runs). Operations are listed several months ahead,  though note that it does stay away from home some nights.

The key thing to check is whether the train is classed as freight (ZZ) and timed as an HST (High Speed Train). I guess there could also be some stock testing like that, but I can't think of anything else. Or, maybe you can find a way of searching the set of trains defined in the data feeds, looking for that combination...
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2019, 21:30:51 »

Somewhat strangely, when I  saw it sat in Reading some months ago, and clicked on the Open Train Times "box" for it (which I recall had two Zs in the code) to see where it was off to, it gave me journey details for a suburban service somewhere in Kent!
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2019, 22:08:24 »

 Got it..........albeit 25 mins late !

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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2019, 22:22:20 »

Just passing as it was leaving Paignton at 15.40 this afternoon. When I got home I looked at real trains and it was passing Taunton signalled on the Bridgewater line. I think it was numbered 111P. There was another train ahead numbered xxxP and going up towards Westbury.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2019, 14:34:30 »

Just passing as it was leaving Paignton at 15.40 this afternoon. When I got home I looked at real trains and it was passing Taunton signalled on the Bridgewater line. I think it was numbered 111P. There was another train ahead numbered xxxP and going up towards Westbury.

It had a very full diagram.............

1) Reading to Paignton via Penzance; followed by...
2) Paignton to Taunton via Bristol; and finally...
3) Taunton to Reading via Newbury.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2019, 09:55:45 »

.............

1) Reading to Paignton via Penzance; followed by...
2) Paignton to Taunton via Bristol; and finally...
3) Taunton to Reading via Newbury.
It managed to find drivers with route route knowledge, so no shortage of crewing.
Is there another crew member on board (i.e. Train Manager?)
Are the crew from Railfreight or 'local TOC (Train Operating Company)'s'?
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2019, 16:32:33 »

.............

1) Reading to Paignton via Penzance; followed by...
2) Paignton to Taunton via Bristol; and finally...
3) Taunton to Reading via Newbury.
It managed to find drivers with route route knowledge, so no shortage of crewing.
Is there another crew member on board (i.e. Train Manager?)
Are the crew from Railfreight or 'local TOC (Train Operating Company)'s'?

To my knowledge the train is operated and crewed by SERCO staff on behalf of Network Rail although I could be wrong, I expect a forum member with more knowledge will correct me If I am incorrect.

It does not carry a train manager as its not a passenger train as such.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2019, 17:20:46 »

.............

1) Reading to Paignton via Penzance; followed by...
2) Paignton to Taunton via Bristol; and finally...
3) Taunton to Reading via Newbury.
It managed to find drivers with route route knowledge, so no shortage of crewing.
Is there another crew member on board (i.e. Train Manager?)
Are the crew from Railfreight or 'local TOC (Train Operating Company)'s'?

Colas currently resource the train crew for the workings. There is a set of dedicated drivers who, depending on which operator has the contract, transfer across under TUPE (The Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations 2006.). They were previously SERCO and later DB» (Deutsche Bahn - German State Railway - about). Colas also provide the traction for many of the locomotive hauled monitoring trains.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2019, 22:43:59 »

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It does not carry a train manager as its not a passenger train as such.

...and presumably no buffet or trolley service! Grin
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2019, 22:56:31 »

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It does not carry a train manager as its not a passenger train as such.

...and presumably no buffet or trolley service! Grin

Quite right but it does have a kitchen area to have a brew up whenever they feel like one and it also has overnight accommodation which one could only rate as hostel class.
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2019, 07:41:42 »

Quite right but it does have a kitchen area to have a brew up whenever they feel like one and it also has overnight accommodation which one could only rate as hostel class.

Now - is there something to be looking at there for regular trains - a bunk bed carriage on daytime trains, with a small kitchen in which passengers can make their own brew?  Or in these days of risk, health and safety a fixed vending machine for teas and coffees, and another for cold drinks, cakes, biscuits, crisps, etc.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2019, 15:11:24 »

If anyone is interested, it just went through Kemble (15:10 Tuesday 6 Aug) heading towards SWI» (Swindon - next trains)...

... and according to http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H23038/2019/08/06/advanced (which I assume refers) it's coming back again shortly.
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