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« on: June 08, 2020, 07:01:14 »

From Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keilbahnhof

Keilbahnhof (plural: Keilbahnhöfe, literally: "wedge station") is the German word for a station located between branching tracks.[1] There appears to be no direct English equivalent for this term, (though 'junction station' would be an equivalent meaning) which appears in the route diagrams of German railway lines. In a keilbahnhof, the platforms curve in opposite directions so that they are parallel at one end of the station & not at the other.

I can think of some in the UK (United Kingdom) (Dovey Junction springs to mind) ... but none currently GWR (Great Western Railway).  Anyone?
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2020, 07:10:48 »

Also not GWR (Great Western Railway), Virginia Water.

There were more in the past, but I think Mr Beeching probably removed them, possibly Moat Lane Junction and Christs Hospital.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2020, 08:13:35 »

In the north west there is Earlestown & Kidsgrove. Greater London has Crystal Palace. West Midlands has Barnt Green, then Lewes in Sussex, Not forgetting Shipley in West Yorkshire which manages platforms on all three sides of a triangle. Can't think of any in GWR (Great Western Railway) land although I suppose Liskeard is our nearest equivalent.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2020, 08:40:52 »

Lewisham on the SE route.

I suppose historically Westbourne Park would have been, with the 'ot n cold and the GWR (Great Western Railway) main lines, but of course now it no longer has mainline platforms
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2020, 09:35:50 »

One station that might come in that category had it not been closed by Breeching as it was in WR territory and would be in GWR (Great Western Railway) territory today is Mangotsfield.
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2020, 10:19:17 »

Also not GWR (Great Western Railway), Virginia Water.

There were more in the past, but I think Mr Beeching probably removed them, possibly Moat Lane Junction and Christs Hospital.

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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2020, 10:55:58 »

Would Filton Abbey Wood qualify ?
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2020, 11:01:28 »

Topologically, but double and grade-separated, Raynes Park. (Is there a specific German word for that kind?)

I think the south of London networks are the natural habitat of the beasties here - Hither Green and Sutton also qualify.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2020, 11:08:11 »

There is another type of station which I think is unique to Germany which is where two lines cross and you have basically      2 or 4 platforms serving both lines. I've changed at three.

Salzgitter Ringelheim  Hanover Halle line with a line from Braunswieg to Soth Harz
Grimmenthal near Meiningen.

Both I seem to recall pretty bleak just open plafrom not shelters and you cross the tracks on the level.

Sandersleben, near Halle there were station buidings but shut up.

Not sure if any of them were staffed.

However they do show the difference between a planned network and a competitive one.  You are at least able to change routes without a long walk.

I'm trying think of UK (United Kingdom) equivalent, thanks Stuving for reminding me Sutton is a near equivalent but in the German examples the lines don't share the same platfroms.

 
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2020, 11:28:13 »

I can think of some in the UK (United Kingdom) (Dovey Junction springs to mind) ... but none currently GWR (Great Western Railway).  Anyone?

Severn Tunnel Junction!

And if you say "aren't the platform faces parallel?", I'll reply "not quite - have you measured them?"
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2020, 12:02:00 »

I can think of some in the UK (United Kingdom) (Dovey Junction springs to mind) ... but none currently GWR (Great Western Railway).  Anyone?

Severn Tunnel Junction!

And if you say "aren't the platform faces parallel?", I'll reply "not quite - have you measured them?"

[pedant]Isn't Severn Tunnel Junction a Transport for Wales Station?[/pedant] - but, yes, served by GWR trains
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2020, 13:01:15 »

Whilst not run by GWR (Great Western Railway), don't GWR trains run through St Denys?
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2020, 13:10:50 »

There is another type of station which I think is unique to Germany which is where two lines cross and you have basically      2 or 4 platforms serving both lines. I've changed at three.

I think that comes from them starting off as different companies?

We have similar - but on a much grander scale and with "leakage" between the lines in the UK (United Kingdom), don't we, at Peterborough, Nuneaton, and Cardiff Central.
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2020, 13:37:00 »

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Whilst not run by GWR (Great Western Railway), don't GWR trains run through St Denys?

Will the Cardiff to Portsmouth/Brighton do?
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2020, 14:00:35 »

Another "used to be" in our neck of the woods was Ashchurch. And Coaley Junction would also qualify I think
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