FGW HSTs: worst refurbishment ever?

[whole diary]

[devon_metro]

Pleased to say i caused no problem and I felt like a God with a WHOLE table 

Try the Night Train.
Perfect if you need to get to Penzance fairly early.
Re upholstered First Class seating, 2+1, all at Tables, it is not very busy, and you can use Standard Day Returns.

Or Cheap Day on Saturday AM. Not that I plan to come down to Cornwall at 0400 AM anyhow 

[Conner]

Didn't know the Night Riviera ran via Paignton?! 

It does run a lot of places though.
Went a long way round on Sunday night.
London-Reading-Swindon-Westbury-Castle Cary-Yeovil Pen Mill-Yeovil Junction-Exeter Central-Exeter St Davids-Penzance

Pleased to say i caused no problem and I felt like a God with a WHOLE table 

Try the Night Train.
Perfect if you need to get to Penzance fairly early.
Re upholstered First Class seating, 2+1, all at Tables, it is not very busy, and you can use Standard Day Returns.

Or Cheap Day on Saturday AM. Not that I plan to come down to Cornwall at 0400 AM anyhow 

Good, if you are in Cornwall though.
As for CDR^▸ (Off Peak Day Return [ticket type] (formerly 'Cheap Day'))'s. I used a Cornish Ranger on it yesterday.

[Mookiemoo]

here is one way adelante beats refurb GST- inner arms - the one on the window side - how come they are hinged and lift up on an adelante but are fixed on a GST refurb

[dog box]

here is one way adelante beats refurb GST- inner arms - the one on the window side - how come they are hinged and lift up on an adelante but are fixed on a GST refurb

Different type of seat, adalantes have seats which are wholly floor mounted whilst HST^▸ (High Speed Train) refurb are Floor and side wall mounted the fixed arm is part of the side wall fitting

[Mookiemoo]

here is one way adelante beats refurb GST- inner arms - the one on the window side - how come they are hinged and lift up on an adelante but are fixed on a GST refurb

Different type of seat, adalantes have seats which are wholly floor mounted whilst HST^▸ (High Speed Train) refurb are Floor and side wall mounted the fixed arm is part of the side wall fitting

BAD design

(tongue in cheek mode one - before I get flamed)

I now have to carry two pillows - one for my head against the window and one to protect my cocyx from the fixed arm when I make a two seat into a bed!

(tongue in cheek mode off)

Seriously though - my lappy had no charge tonight so I was comfortably stretched out reading a book tonight on an adelante - a HST would need some sort of pillow or roll up protection

[Mookiemoo]

here is one way adelante beats refurb GST- inner arms - the one on the window side - how come they are hinged and lift up on an adelante but are fixed on a GST refurb

Different type of seat, adalantes have seats which are wholly floor mounted whilst HST^▸ (High Speed Train) refurb are Floor and side wall mounted the fixed arm is part of the side wall fitting

Nope!

I investigated my seat this morning.  The side wall fitting is actually on the squab - there is no part of the arm attached to the side wall hence no reason it couldnt be hinged

[vacman]

I now have to carry two pillows - one for my head against the window and one to protect my cocyx from the fixed arm when I make a two seat into a bed!

(tongue in cheek mode off)

Seriously though - my lappy had no charge tonight so I was comfortably stretched out reading a book tonight on an adelante - a HST^▸ (High Speed Train) would need some sort of pillow or roll up protection

is that a violin I hear 

[Shazz]

I now have to carry two pillows - one for my head against the window and one to protect my cocyx from the fixed arm when I make a two seat into a bed!

(tongue in cheek mode off)

Seriously though - my lappy had no charge tonight so I was comfortably stretched out reading a book tonight on an adelante - a HST^▸ (High Speed Train) would need some sort of pillow or roll up protection

is that a violin I hear 

*Begins to play the worlds smallest Violin*

[Jim]

I now have to carry two pillows - one for my head against the window and one to protect my cocyx from the fixed arm when I make a two seat into a bed!

(tongue in cheek mode off)

Seriously though - my lappy had no charge tonight so I was comfortably stretched out reading a book tonight on an adelante - a HST^▸ (High Speed Train) would need some sort of pillow or roll up protection

is that a violin I hear 

*Begins to play the worlds smallest Violin*

Don't leave it on the train

[Btline]

I now have to carry two pillows - one for my head against the window and one to protect my cocyx from the fixed arm when I make a two seat into a bed!

(tongue in cheek mode off)

Seriously though - my lappy had no charge tonight so I was comfortably stretched out reading a book tonight on an adelante - a HST^▸ (High Speed Train) would need some sort of pillow or roll up protection

is that a violin I hear 

*Begins to play the worlds smallest Violin*

Don't leave it on the train

[IndustryInsider]

The only thing i'm personally against is the lighting. I was trying desperately to look out of the window yesturday, but all i could see was myself... desperately trying to see out of the window!

A memorandum has been issued to fleet staff at the depots instructing them to send out empty trains about to head into service with 'half-lighting' selected as standard from now onwards. The only time you should see full lighting on is if a TM^‡(resolve) has subsequently changed the setting, or there is a fault with the lighting that means 'half-lighting' cannot be selected - this isn't uncommon, but usually affects only one vehicle at a time and not the whole train.

[stebbo]

In a recent survey on this site I voted for unrefurbished Mark 3s or Mark 2s as the best (and got plaudits from one user for voting for Mark 2s). Let's be brutal, refurb'ed Mark 3s are c**p. The old trad layouts of 4 seats around table was fantastic and made rail travel a joy.

Been to London from Cheltenham this week on Wednedsay and today with colleagues. Only managed a table this morning on 0727 ex Cheltenham and managed a sensible working meeting on the way.

[12hoursunday]

The only thing i'm personally against is the lighting. I was trying desperately to look out of the window yesturday, but all i could see was myself... desperately trying to see out of the window!

A memorandum has been issued to fleet staff at the depots instructing them to send out empty trains about to head into service with 'half-lighting' selected as standard from now onwards. The only time you should see full lighting on is if a TM^‡(resolve) has subsequently changed the setting, or there is a fault with the lighting that means 'half-lighting' cannot be selected - this isn't uncommon, but usually affects only one vehicle at a time and not the whole train.

it must pointed out however that this is a energy saving exercise, not so that the like's of Steve44 is able to see out of the window!

[smokey]

The only thing i'm personally against is the lighting. I was trying desperately to look out of the window yesturday, but all i could see was myself... desperately trying to see out of the window!

A memorandum has been issued to fleet staff at the depots instructing them to send out empty trains about to head into service with 'half-lighting' selected as standard from now onwards. The only time you should see full lighting on is if a TM^‡(resolve) has subsequently changed the setting, or there is a fault with the lighting that means 'half-lighting' cannot be selected - this isn't uncommon, but usually affects only one vehicle at a time and not the whole train.

it must pointed out however that this is a energy saving exercise, not so that the like's of Steve44 is able to see out of the window!

Darn it!!!!

I've been suffering Bad Head aches and sore Eyes after traveling in Brightly lit HST^▸ (High Speed Train) coaches, the Lighting level can be painfully high for those with Sensitive Eyes.

I was looking at Sueing!!!!!

[stebbo]

Half lighting, eh? I was looking at the ceiling panels only last week wondering if the refurb meant the lights alternated with ordinary panels in some weirdo design feature. Excuse my ignorance.