XC HSTs

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[r james]

So didn't XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) take on enough buffet cars for these HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) which they have taken on?

I cant wait to see the refurbished HSTs.  They should be really smart, and a goo alternative to a voyager!

[devon_metro]

They don't have any buffets. Trolley, as with the vomits is the plan.

[r james]

Surely if the drinks are coming through cold, this cant continue, and they will have to ook at a different way of doing thinge to the trolleys?

I thought they had taken on some buffet cars?  Maybe with thee longer car trains, they will consider taking on some of the currently disused buffet cars?

This experiment could bring about the whole end of the removal of the voyagers onboard shops!

[shadow]

I spoke to a friend of mine, who is a RSM on the XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) trains. She was on one of the first RSM's to do from plymouth. She doesn't like the trolleys!

I think one of the services is 10:25 up from plymouth on a monday

[r james]

I personnaly would have buffet cars on the HST^▸ (High Speed Train) sets, as they are just so long, they need them!!  And the extra seats on those buffet cars would add even more capacity!

[shadow]

I still prefer the voyager's, but if the XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) HST^▸ (High Speed Train)'s had the buffet cars in, it would make them nicer

[adelante]

I know this is:

(a) A little off topic for a FGW^▸ (First Great Western) board and

(b) Perhaps a little bit similar to a previous post,

but when are the XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) going to be ready? One source says "in time for the December timetable," another says "in time for the spring."

What about the holiday HSTs, which/whose HST sets are these going to be using?

And, as there will be a trolley station in each coach, I take it that the 8 coaches do not consist of a buffet car.

The source that talked about the trolley also said that FGW was going to switich to trolleys! Surely this can't be true after what happened?

Many thanks,

Btline

What did happen? I know there was an accident with a trolley, but not what actually happened.

[Btline]

I heard that:

Some hot coffee was spilt on a man as a trolley collapsed.

Health and safety immediately banned them.

FGW^▸ (First Great Western) have now sorted it out with H&S^▸ (Health and Safety).

Trolleys are back on the trains.

That is the impression I have got. I would like to know a more accurate version!

[Super Guard]

South West Trains have some sort of trolley's that get loaded on for St Davids-Waterloo service, that from what I have seen have some sort of boiler (I think), and that seems to work for them.

I seriously doubt the trolley idea is going to work for FGW^▸ (First Great Western) unless it is used where appropriate.

[swlines]

SWT^▸ (South West Trains) don't really have the space for a full buffet and so a trolley has to suffice on their 3 coach units.

I'm informed by an informant by an informant by an informant ... by an informant ... that all buffet coaches that FGW^▸ (First Great Western) will be refurbished by December and put back into service.

[smithy]

SWT^▸ (South West Trains) don't really have the space for a full buffet and so a trolley has to suffice on their 3 coach units.

I'm informed by an informant by an informant by an informant ... by an informant ... that all buffet coaches that FGW^▸ (First Great Western) will be refurbished by December and put back into service.

i was told that a handful of buffets are being removed to allow 2+7 running with the use of 2 trolleys that have now been modified to pass h&s.
i was also told 1 will remain spare while the others could get converted to standard carriages should the 2+7 be a success?
but i do stand to be corrected should i have been given dodgy info.

[t1h5e8]

I'm informed by an informant by an informant by an informant ... by an informant ... that all buffet coaches that FGW^▸ (First Great Western) will be refurbished by December and put back into service.

I have also heard from a good source that all buffets are being retained.

[Super Guard]

> The first refurbished power cars are due to enter service in July, followed by the
> first complete set in September.

I can confirm that I have seen 2 refurbished/re-engined XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) powercars in use this weekend at the rear of a couple of HST^▸ (High Speed Train) sets.  They look quite smart and obviously much more quiet/cleaner like FGW^▸ (First Great Western)'s, with the LED lights at the back again ala FGW.

On a side-note a few FGW HST sets could do with a run through a 'train-wash' or something because they are getting dirty!

[r james]

I take it that XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) still arent going back on the buffet car decision? 

I still think it would be a fantastic way to add more seating to busy units! 

[tramway]

I can confirm that I have seen 2 refurbished/re-engined XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) powercars in use this weekend at the rear of a couple of HST^▸ (High Speed Train) sets.  They look quite smart and obviously much more quiet/cleaner like FGW^▸ (First Great Western)'s, with the LED lights at the back again ala FGW.
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Forget which evening last week but a very late running refurb passed through Filton quickly followed by the on time Plymouth service, so they are out and about now.