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« Reply #750 on: November 10, 2023, 11:13:14 » |
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With ticket office staff, I know that several staff had already applied for, been interviewed and offered other positions, mainly on board. If they wanted to return to their original posts would they be allowed to? If not or if they didn't want to, will management fill the vacancies?
Don't forget this proposal only kicks the can down the road.
This years pay award, of which talks start in February, will be subject to the same changes to conditions that have been talked about for the past 18 months but done locally i.e. by individual TOCs▸ (allegedly(!))
I expect the subject closure of ticket offices WILL raise it's head again by the end of next year when the security of no job losses disappears.
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8 Billion people on a wet rock - of course we're not happy
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« Reply #751 on: November 11, 2023, 08:51:21 » |
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With ticket office staff, I know that several staff had already applied for, been interviewed and offered other positions, mainly on board. If they wanted to return to their original posts would they be allowed to? If not or if they didn't want to, will management fill the vacancies?
Don't forget this proposal only kicks the can down the road.
This years pay award, of which talks start in February, will be subject to the same changes to conditions that have been talked about for the past 18 months but done locally i.e. by individual TOCs▸ (allegedly(!))
I expect the subject closure of ticket offices WILL raise it's head again by the end of next year when the security of no job losses disappears.
As you say the can has been kicked down the road. I suspect that ticket office closures will now happen on an individual, "creeping death" basis, retaining those which are more commercially viable whilst letting go those at the other end - especially where the space can be exploited more lucratively. |
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« Reply #752 on: November 11, 2023, 09:04:27 » |
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I think the key is ticket reform, reducing the complexity of that system. Once that is done, and passengers are comfortable with it, the ticket office dilemma will be revisited. However, I feel this ticket office future needs to be done following negotiation.
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« Reply #753 on: November 11, 2023, 11:19:31 » |
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I suspect that ticket office closures will now happen on an individual, "creeping death" basis, retaining those which are more commercially viable whilst letting go those at the other end - especially where the space can be exploited more lucratively.
I also think that will be the case. But it’s a much better way of doing it than the ridiculously rushed and ill thought out ‘you must close them all’ directive. |
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« Reply #754 on: November 13, 2023, 00:35:03 » |
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I think the key is ticket reform, reducing the complexity of that system. Once that is done, and passengers are comfortable with it, the ticket office dilemma will be revisited. However, I feel this ticket office future needs to be done following negotiation.
I have long suggested a very considerable simplification of rail fares, with only three different fares for each journey and preferably colour coded. If such a scheme was adopted, then closing less used ticket offices would be reasonable. the three fares to be known as peak, off peak and super bargain. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #755 on: November 13, 2023, 08:59:03 » |
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If you haven’t already, it might be worth producing a detailed set of proposals and sending that to all the relevant policy makers?
The franchise system collapse means there has never been a better time since privatisation for a wholesale reform.
If it comes to nothing, then at least you’ve tried - after all, there’s very little chance of it being picked up on here.
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« Reply #756 on: November 16, 2023, 09:06:32 » |
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From the BBC» - ASLEF» Strike days Train drivers are set to stage a fresh round of strikes in their long-running dispute over pay.
The Aslef union has announced a "rolling programme" of walkouts between 2 and 8 December, with different train companies affected on each day.
Drivers will also refuse to work any overtime from 1 to 9 December as part of the industrial action.
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Saturday 2 December at East Midlands Railway and LNER»
Sunday 3 December at Avanti West Coast, Chiltern, Great Northern Thameslink, and West Midlands Trains
Tuesday 5 December at C2C and Greater Anglia
Wednesday 6 December at Southeastern, Southern/Gatwick Express, SWR» main line, SWR depot drivers, and Island Line
Thursday 7 December at CrossCountry and GWR▸
Friday 8 December at Northern and TPT
Services are expected to be cancelled on strike days, causing disruption for passengers. |
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« Reply #757 on: November 16, 2023, 09:11:28 » |
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From the BBC» - ASLEF» Strike days Train drivers are set to stage a fresh round of strikes in their long-running dispute over pay.
The Aslef union has announced a "rolling programme" of walkouts between 2 and 8 December, with different train companies affected on each day.
Drivers will also refuse to work any overtime from 1 to 9 December as part of the industrial action.
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Saturday 2 December at East Midlands Railway and LNER»
Sunday 3 December at Avanti West Coast, Chiltern, Great Northern Thameslink, and West Midlands Trains
Tuesday 5 December at C2C and Greater Anglia
Wednesday 6 December at Southeastern, Southern/Gatwick Express, SWR» main line, SWR depot drivers, and Island Line
Thursday 7 December at CrossCountry and GWR▸
Friday 8 December at Northern and TPT
Services are expected to be cancelled on strike days, causing disruption for passengers. Oh dear, the day I am supposed to be doing a presentation in London |
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« Reply #758 on: November 16, 2023, 10:21:52 » |
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Oh dear, the day I am supposed to be doing a presentation in London
On past form there will be limited daytime services ... and historically there would have been "the Waterloos" |
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« Reply #759 on: November 16, 2023, 12:24:18 » |
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I don't suppose that we can expect them to go and spend their £59,189 ( BBC» fig) salaries on Christmas prezzies in their own time - can we ?  |
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« Reply #760 on: November 26, 2023, 09:28:43 » |
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I’m expecting widespread disruption on Sunday 3rd December with the non-contractual overtime ban. Many HSS▸ grade drivers are likely to make themselves unavailable as per their T&C’s and GWR▸ grade drivers won’t be volunteering for additional shifts.
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« Reply #761 on: November 27, 2023, 12:14:28 » |
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My original 7th December booking DIG > EXD» >PAD» has had to be binned - RTT» has been updated to indicate no Exmouth branch services, only two trains to PAD and no HEx service either.
I will (hopefully) now take a bus, using a crinklies pass, from home to Exeter city centre - the Stagecoach H will drop me off at EXC - and then 1L56 from EXC (1430) to CLJ (1809), this being diverted via WSB» to avoid the engineering closure, followed by 1N95 CLJ (1822) > FEL (1842), and then the 490 TfL» bus to Heathrow T4 (overnight hotel prior to early Friday flight to Nice + train to Toulon for the European Champions Cup game on Saturday).
Fingers firmly crossed!
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« Reply #762 on: November 28, 2023, 19:20:21 » |
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I’m expecting widespread disruption on Sunday 3rd December with the non-contractual overtime ban. Many HSS▸ grade drivers are likely to make themselves unavailable as per their T&C’s and GWR▸ grade drivers won’t be volunteering for additional shifts.
GWR backing up what you posted yesterday II: Sunday 3 December – Action short of a strike
There will be significant disruption to services and customers are recommended to travel the day before or the following day. Where trains can run, they will be extremely busy.
Source: www.gwr.com/strike |
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« Reply #763 on: November 29, 2023, 21:48:05 » |
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Looking at RTT» for this coming Sunday 3rd of December, from what I can see, the only HSS▸ services that will be operating to/from London is an hourly service Swindon to Paddington and an hourly service North Cotswolds line to Paddington.
There will also be an hourly HSS service between Bath and Bristol along with the usual local and inter regional services. These appear to be running as normal across the GWR▸ network. However, what’s shown today on RTT and what actually runs on the 3rd may be two completely different things.
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« Reply #764 on: November 30, 2023, 08:09:17 » |
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Looking at RTT» for this coming Sunday 3rd of December, from what I can see, the only HSS▸ services that will be operating to/from London is an hourly service Swindon to Paddington and an hourly service North Cotswolds line to Paddington.
There will also be an hourly HSS service between Bath and Bristol along with the usual local and inter regional services. These appear to be running as normal across the GWR▸ network. However, what’s shown today on RTT and what actually runs on the 3rd may be two completely different things.
GWR have confirmed this on X (Twitter) this morning: https://twitter.com/GWRHelp/status/1730121328034738543 |
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