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Author Topic: 2023 Delays and Cancellations  (Read 49181 times)
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« Reply #405 on: December 18, 2023, 09:57:47 »

This morning's 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington service was "cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)". The following London bound service, the 07:13 Great Malvern to Paddington train was "cancelled between Great Malvern and Worcester Foregate Street due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)" and was 34 minutes late by the time it arrived at Oxford. Effectively a delay of almost an an hour and a half for those due to travel on the earlier service.
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« Reply #406 on: December 18, 2023, 16:04:05 »

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17:04 Didcot Parkway to Moreton-In-Marsh due 18:10 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:18/12/2023 15:45

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18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:18/12/2023 15:45

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« Reply #407 on: December 19, 2023, 09:50:27 »

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07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:12 has been delayed at Oxford and is now 17 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:19/12/2023 09:02


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08:15 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:23 will be delayed at Charlbury and is expected to be 7 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:19/12/2023 09:02


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15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:19/12/2023 08:56


At present, no mention of 1P40, the 1802 return to Paddington from Foregate Street
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« Reply #408 on: December 19, 2023, 11:58:09 »

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15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:19/12/2023 11:29

19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:19/12/2023 11:29

The halts train, 17:23 departure from Oxford, will be a bit busy tonight.
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« Reply #409 on: December 19, 2023, 13:38:24 »

I might be sticking my neck out here but I cringe every time I read   xxxx WILL be cancelled. If the decision is made not run a train it IS cancelled. If there is an overwhelming desire by those who update information to us the word WILL could they not say the train WILL not run.
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« Reply #410 on: December 19, 2023, 14:34:12 »

JourneyCheck is no longer reporting that the 15:23 from Paddington to Foregate Street will be terminated at Oxford.

It is not reporting that this "has been reinstated", which is the usual format.
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« Reply #411 on: December 19, 2023, 16:15:08 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) have a 'nasty' habit of reinstating trains previously notified as cancelled - presumably as they might find crew/stock/etc become available.

So "will" is quite possible.
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« Reply #412 on: December 19, 2023, 18:07:16 »

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15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:19/12/2023 11:29

They've changed their explanation. RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) is reporting
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1W31 1552 London Paddington to Great Malvern
This service was cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI).
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« Reply #413 on: December 19, 2023, 19:04:13 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) have a 'nasty' habit of reinstating trains previously notified as cancelled - presumably as they might find crew/stock/etc become available.

So "will" is quite possible.

It is an extremely difficult call for them within the limits of being able tp say a train is running or it isn't - whatever wording they use. 

If GWR are 95% they can run a train, I (presume) they'll say nothing about it being cancelled.  If they know that a train won't run barring a 5% miracle, they all say it is cancelled.  But what should they say at a 50% chance - if they simply don't know?   
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« Reply #414 on: December 19, 2023, 22:23:52 »

Really Guys
Whether GWR (Great Western Railway) cannot decide if they are to run a train or not is not the issue here. Once they have decided to go public and the decision has been made  the train is cancelled. I am finding it difficult to understand an argument which supports the use of "will be cancelled" in case they might run it. If circumstances do change and a previously cancelled train can run the standard reinstatement message can be made. Please do not create another situation where railway communications are less than 100% clear
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« Reply #415 on: December 20, 2023, 16:21:08 »

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13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:25 has been cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.
Last Updated:20/12/2023 14:50

15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.
Last Updated:20/12/2023 13:53

16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.
Last Updated:20/12/2023 14:50
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« Reply #416 on: December 21, 2023, 08:19:36 »

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08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:10

11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:54

13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:30

05:53 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 08:38 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:10

08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:54

12:51 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:30

No mention of the 09:52 from Paddington to Hereford.
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« Reply #417 on: December 21, 2023, 11:07:09 »

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15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 09:40
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« Reply #418 on: December 21, 2023, 13:01:01 »

It's not turning out to be a good day:
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13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:25 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 12:03

09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 was terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 12:03

12:51 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:00 will be reinstated.
This is due to train crew being delayed.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 11:47
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« Reply #419 on: December 21, 2023, 14:28:54 »

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15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:21/12/2023 13:22
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