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« on: September 01, 2023, 18:14:25 »

A Herefordshire couple were kicked off a Great Western Railway train after a train manager ‘took exception’ to their converted  bike, believing that it was a fire hazard and banned from rail services.

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Little  sympathy from cyclists for the couple.And someone has pointed out the inaccurate (?) stock photo.
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2023, 21:18:03 »

Stupid train manager obviously didn't know a Flux Capacitor when he saw one ! Hope the train they actually got on didn't exceed 88mph..................
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2023, 11:09:56 »

That does look horrendous and I wouldn't give it house room (the e-bike wiring, not the lovely paint job on the Class 57!).
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2023, 16:42:45 »

Whilst I am generally in favour of electric cycles, that one does look a bit of a bodge, it might in fact be safe, but I can understand the train manager being cautious.

The main risk is lithium batteries, and NOT untidy looking electric wiring. The risk is greatest when being charged, but they can catch fire at other times.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2023, 18:04:00 »

that one does look a bit of a bodge, it might in fact be safe, but I can understand the train manager being cautious.

The main risk is lithium batteries, and NOT untidy looking electric wiring.

As an Electrical Engineer "untidy looking electric wiring" raises a red flag immediately to me. If the person doing the job cannot (or doesn't) do a "tidy" job then I would immediately worry about the quality of that person's subject knowledge..............if it looks cheap and nasty................!!  Expensive lithium batteries are problematic (ask Boeing, batteries from Yuasa !) - cheap (and nasty) ones are potentially lethal.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2023, 18:55:51 »

That does look horrendous and I wouldn't give it house room (the e-bike wiring, not the lovely paint job on the Class 57!).

I’d be very surprised if they caught the sleeper on the Cotswold line. Although the carriages and loco did run to Oxford once after a train failure. That was around 2010 from memory.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2023, 09:09:46 »

that one does look a bit of a bodge, it might in fact be safe, but I can understand the train manager being cautious.

The main risk is lithium batteries, and NOT untidy looking electric wiring.

As an Electrical Engineer "untidy looking electric wiring" raises a red flag immediately to me. If the person doing the job cannot (or doesn't) do a "tidy" job then I would immediately worry about the quality of that person's subject knowledge..............if it looks cheap and nasty................!!  Expensive lithium batteries are problematic (ask Boeing, batteries from Yuasa !) - cheap (and nasty) ones are potentially lethal.

I agree Clan Line it looks very high risk, doubt it has a fuse or circuit breaker, I suspect they went cheep on the battery and charger.   

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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2023, 09:58:55 »

As so often first impressions are vital.

To combine with another bete noir of mine, put your folding bike in a bag on the bus. Could hide all sorts of nasties?
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2023, 10:21:15 »

As so often first impressions are vital.

To combine with another bete noir of mine, put your folding bike in a bag on the bus. Could hide all sorts of nasties?

Recently I saw station staff challenge a guy about what he had in a large heavy holdall.  It looked like a folded E-scoter , the chap protested but the barrier staff would not let him through.

BTP (British Transport Police) turned up, the guy opened his bag and sure enough inside was an E-scoter
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2023, 20:53:25 »

They got kicked off at Honeybourne but managed to persuade the train manager on the following service to carry them. Their return journey was uneventful all the way home.
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