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« on: September 18, 2023, 09:41:54 »

Didn't have my glasses on, and was struck this morning by the coffee shop's disruptions map's ominous orange glow, briefly matching the sky outside earlier. I then wondered: Does 'Reformed' imply trains that have a different number of carriages from what was intended?

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2023, 09:47:19 »

Didn't have my glasses on, and was struck this morning by the coffee shop's disruptions map's ominous orange glow, briefly matching the sky outside earlier. I then wondered: Does 'Reformed' imply trains that have a different number of carriages from what was intended?

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Yes - and in the case of the TransWilts service we have 3 carriages not 2 today so it's a positive change.  I am thinking that some adjustment of map colours might be helpful as cancelled, short run and reformed look too similar.  Delayed - blue, Loo problems - brown and Additions - green are probably OK.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2023, 11:24:33 »

Would it be helpful to have two maps?  One covering the more serious issues of cancellations and short runs, and one covering loos and additions?  Mind you, where would the 'reformed' category fit in as generally speaking a one carriage reduction isn't the end of the world and a long form is usually good news.  However a 5 vice 10 IET (Intercity Express Train) or a 2 vice 5 on a Cardiff<>Porstmouth can be a different matter.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2023, 11:33:22 »

Would it be helpful to have two maps?  One covering the more serious issues of cancellations and short runs, and one covering loos and additions?  Mind you, where would the 'reformed' category fit in as generally speaking a one carriage reduction isn't the end of the world and a long form is usually good news.  However a 5 vice 10 IET (Intercity Express Train) or a 2 vice 5 on a Cardiff<>Porstmouth can be a different matter.

If you click on the map, you get a new display with a larger map that you can tailor in this way - see http://new.passenger.chat/better/map.html?ecs=838.9249877929688&wye=524&basemap=AABBABADAA&001=A&002=A&003=D&004=B&005=A&006=B&007=A&008=D&doit=update%21 as an example but bear in mind that's dynamic so viewing the page later I don't know what you'll see.

There may be scope for individuals to tune like with the colour scheme and the expansion of abbreviations.  I would be reluctant to give up more screen space to a second map, or have two different maps alternating or to leave off shortform - but listening.

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2023, 12:36:24 »

At the risk of mucking about with a well loved system ... I have re-coloured "reformed".  Please tell me if you love it or hate it. It can easily be undone.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2023, 09:07:28 »

At the risk of mucking about with a well loved system ... I have re-coloured "reformed".  Please tell me if you love it or hate it. It can easily be undone.

Zero feedback on the colour change.  Personally I find the pink an improvement over the orange as it differentiates far better and unless I get comment back to the contrary, I propose to leave it pink.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2023, 09:13:45 »

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At the risk of mucking about with a well loved system ... I have re-coloured "reformed".  Please tell me if you love it or hate it. It can easily be undone.

Zero feedback on the colour change.  Personally I find the pink an improvement over the orange as it differentiates far better and unless I get comment back to the contrary, I propose to leave it pink.

I like the change - thank you for making it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2023, 09:37:12 »

Ah, I was hanging back on commenting to let the colour settle and also to see how it sat with a more typical day of disruption. It sits well, but what do you think of giving the pink a little more bite, as the colour itself recedes a bit into the white background? As for the map itself, I just love it, and it must have been very pleasing to set it up and then see it doing its thing of its own accord.

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2023, 01:15:36 »

At the risk of mucking about with a well loved system ... I have re-coloured "reformed".  Please tell me if you love it or hate it. It can easily be undone.

Zero feedback on the colour change.  Personally I find the pink an improvement over the orange as it differentiates far better and unless I get comment back to the contrary, I propose to leave it pink.

I presumed that pink was temporary and related to gay rights or something similar, but no harm in making it permanent.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2023, 07:15:39 »

From research ... - there's quite a science in choosing colours.

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Red: energy, power, passion
Orange: joy, enthusiasm, creativity
Yellow: happiness, intellect, energy
Green: ambition, growth, freshness, safety
Blue: tranquility, confidence, intelligence
Purple: luxury, ambition, creativity
Black: power, elegance, mystery
White: cleanliness, purity, perfection

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One challenge that UX designers have to keep in mind is meeting the needs of site visitors with color blindness or color vision deficiency (CVD). This condition affects more than eight percent of men and about 0.5 percent of women of Northern European ancestry. It’s up to UX designers to employ color blind-friendly palettes adapted and configured to accommodate the multiple varieties of colorblindness. Check out this post from the Pinterest Engineering team on the ways they approach CVD accessibility on their predominantly visual platform.

Our map is showing - for the most part - negative features whereas the colour listing above highlights positive aspects, so it's no more than food for thought.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2023, 09:34:21 »

From research ... - there's quite a science in choosing colours.

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Yellow: happiness, intellect, energy
Blue: tranquility, confidence, intelligence

Our map is showing - for the most part - negative features whereas the colour listing above highlights positive aspects, so it's no more than food for thought.

Ryanair, Aldi and Lidl all use blue and yellow, quite heavily.  Just sayin'
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