Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
No recent travel & transport from BBC stories as at 18:15 28 Apr 2024
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 22/05/24 - WWRUG / TransWilts update
02/06/24 - Summer Timetable starts
17/08/24 - Bus to Imber
27/09/25 - 200 years of passenger trains

On this day
28th Apr (1996)
GNER franchise (Sea Containers) starts on ECML (*)

Train RunningCancelled
16:56 Exmouth to Paignton
28/04/24 18:01 Severn Beach to Bristol Temple Meads
19:21 Reading to Gatwick Airport
21:16 Gatwick Airport to Reading
Short Run
15:44 London Paddington to Great Malvern
16:08 Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads
Delayed
13:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
13:53 London Paddington to Penzance
15:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
15:02 Plymouth to London Paddington
18:38 London Paddington to Swansea
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
April 28, 2024, 18:22:49 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[181] Clan Line - by Clan Line !
[60] Labour to nationalise railways within five years of coming to ...
[49] Misleading advertising?
[17] access for all at Devon stations report
[17] Who we are - the people behind firstgreatwestern.info
[6] Cornish delays
 
News: the Great Western Coffee Shop ... keeping you up to date with travel around the South West
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2 3
  Print  
Author Topic: Station usage figures  (Read 11982 times)
swlines
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1178


View Profile Email
« on: June 16, 2008, 11:49:47 »

I've had rough figures for a while but now the official ones are out, here are the bottom 20 stations in terms of entry/exit usage in 2006-2007.

(from bottom to top)

Tyndrum Lower
Buckenham
Coombe Halt
Golf Street
Barry Links
Denton
Sugar Loaf
Breich
Dorking West
Thorne South
Tees-side Airport
Lakenheath
Chapelton
Reddish South
Scotscalder
Elton & Orston
Falls of Cruachan
Pilning
Kirton Lindsey
Dorchester West

and now top 20 (from 20th to 1st):

Glasgow Queen Street
Reading
Manchester Piccadilly
Birmingham New Street
London Fenchurch Street
Edinburgh Waverley
Wimbledon
Leeds
Clapham Junction
East Croydon
Glasgow Central
London Cannon Street
London Kings Cross
London Euston
London Paddington
London Charing Cross
London Bridge
London Liverpool Street
London Victoria
London Waterloo

Melksham comes ... 2024th in terms of usage.
Logged
devon_metro
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 5175



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 12:07:50 »

Of note, Pilning saw a rise in passenger usage!
Logged
swlines
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1178


View Profile Email
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 12:23:38 »

As did Gainsborough Central which now sits at 1913rd!

Oh, and I'm proud to say half those entries at Barry Links are me!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

The new joke station I think is going to have to be Buckenham...
Logged
Lee
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7519


GBR - The Emperor's New Rail Network


View Profile WWW
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2008, 12:25:05 »

Melksham comes ... 2024th in terms of usage.

Only a small drop in usage at Melksham, from 24,426 to 22,201. However, the figures are from April 2006-April 2007, so the full effect of the December 2006 timetable slashing wont be apparent.

Take Doleham, Three Oaks and Winchelsea for example. They had their service slashed in December 2005 as part of the creation of the Ashford-Brighton service. Only small changes in usage were registered in the April 2005-April 2006 figures, but they have taken an absolute hammering in the April 2006-April 2007 figures.......
Logged

Vous devez être impitoyable, parce que ces gens sont des salauds - https://looka.com/s/78722877
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 40843



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 12:31:26 »

Melksham comes ... 2024th in terms of usage.

Yes - the figures are down, and in line with a Swindon to Southampton service that grew rapidly for the first 8 months and was then executed.
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
Karl
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 123


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 14:17:09 »

Afternoon

Its a shame that Doleham and Three Oaks station's
arn't used more.  They are both very qauint and on
a good day its nice to sit out in these two country
stations to wait for the train.

In 2005 when a friend and I went chasing after a
non-exsisting Hastings DEMU (Diesel Electric Multiple Unit) (1001), which fills
in for "Southern" when there short, I think if my
memory serves me correct, the residents of Doleham
had a large poster campaign to stop it from closing
altogether.  Again if memory serves me correct the
service was due to be down to about two stops per
day each way and that was under threat.  Not sure
how there campaign has devoleped since, as I haven't
been back there since?

Regards

Karl.   


Take Doleham, Three Oaks and Winchelsea for example.
They had their service slashed in December 2005 as
part of the creation of the Ashford-Brighton service.
Only small changes in usage were registered in the
April 2005-April 2006 figures, but they have taken
an absolute hammering in the April 2006-April 2007
figures.......
Logged
Andy
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 544



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2008, 14:20:09 »

Can I ask what the deal is with the St Ives branch? The figures shouw a huge drop but the "fail" suggests that there was some change in counting methods. Can anyone shed any light on what happened?

Thanks
 
Logged
RichardB
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 959


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 14:42:29 »

You're looking at this, I take it, http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/nav.1529

The issue on the St Ives Bay Line is that anyone just making a journey on the line buys a St Ives Bay Line Ranger, which doesn't show up as a point to point ticket, so doesn't count in the station totals.  If you look at the Lelant Saltings' figures, you will see what I mean. 

Logged
Andy
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 544



View Profile
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2008, 15:00:38 »

Thanks, Richard, for clearing that up. Your answer begs another question - are there stats on line patronage/usage which do take into account all the other forms of "ticket"?

 

« Last Edit: June 16, 2008, 15:26:55 by Andy » Logged
swlines
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1178


View Profile Email
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2008, 15:21:11 »

No.

Well there is, but I don't believe it's available to the general public...
« Last Edit: June 16, 2008, 15:22:53 by swlines » Logged
Andy
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 544



View Profile
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2008, 15:31:15 »

Thanks SW lines. I'm now left wondering what the point/use of these stats is.
Logged
John R
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4416


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2008, 19:59:08 »

Melksham comes ... 2024th in terms of usage.

Only a small drop in usage at Melksham, from 24,426 to 22,201. However, the figures are from April 2006-April 2007, so the full effect of the December 2006 timetable slashing wont be apparent.

Take Doleham, Three Oaks and Winchelsea for example. They had their service slashed in December 2005 as part of the creation of the Ashford-Brighton service. Only small changes in usage were registered in the April 2005-April 2006 figures, but they have taken an absolute hammering in the April 2006-April 2007 figures.......

But I think the position at Melksham is complicated by those that buy tickets from Melksham but may use alternative stations? Suppose this accounts for half of the 05/06 figures, that leaves 12,000 (in round numbers) "genuine" passengers. ie 1,000 a month. In the 06/07 year, the 9 months to Dec would see 9,000 passengers, leaving 1,000 for the remaining 3 months. ie a fall from 1000 to 300 with the timetable change. If you assume that the 06/07 would have seen a modest 5% rise until the change, that would amount to around 9500 passengers until December, with only 500 a month thereafter.

Unfortunately the true position will probably never be known due to the first point.   
 
Logged
Lee
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7519


GBR - The Emperor's New Rail Network


View Profile WWW
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2008, 20:52:46 »

Got some figures from an FOSBR (Friends of Suburban Bristol Railways) member for Severn Beach Line stations with percentage rise/falls. Selected other Bristol suburban stations are also included :

Quote from: FOSBR (Friends of Suburban Bristol Railways) member
Lawrence Hill 55865 --> 68371 = +22.4%
Stapleton Road 86997 --> 98446 = +13.2%
Montpelier 73573 --> 76969 = +4.6%
Redland 55529 --> 66852 = +20.4%
Clifton Down 153027 --> 180656 = +18.1%
Sea Mills 36411 --> 40786 = +12.0%
Shirehampton 31539 --> 38493 = +22.0%
Avonmouth 43365 --> 47834 = +10.3%
St Andrews Road 8008 --> 5518 = -31.1%
Severn Beach 37088 --> 38202 = +3.0%

Bedminster 40917 --> 43379 = +6.0%
Parson Street 14293 --> 19172 = +34.1%
Patchway 33957 --> 42463 = +25.0%
Filton Abbey Wood 401325 --> 410630 = +2.3%

Personally, I am rather sceptical on St Andrews Road. For a number of years, the figure was stable between 3000-5000. Then in the April 2005-April 2006 figures it leapt up to 8008. The 2006-2007 figures show this falling back to 5518, closer to the historical figure, with due allowance for realistic growth.

A further complication, obviously, is that a combined rail/bus service was in place throughout.
Logged

Vous devez être impitoyable, parce que ces gens sont des salauds - https://looka.com/s/78722877
Shazz
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 534


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2008, 21:52:30 »

Nice to see my local station (cam) went up another 20k this year!
Logged
Lee
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7519


GBR - The Emperor's New Rail Network


View Profile WWW
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2008, 21:55:59 »

You're looking at this, I take it, http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/nav.1529

The issue on the St Ives Bay Line is that anyone just making a journey on the line buys a St Ives Bay Line Ranger, which doesn't show up as a point to point ticket, so doesn't count in the station totals.  If you look at the Lelant Saltings' figures, you will see what I mean.

I assume that the Partnership conducts regular passenger counts. Could you possibly give us an idea of what they indicate regarding station footfall?
Logged

Vous devez être impitoyable, parce que ces gens sont des salauds - https://looka.com/s/78722877
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1] 2 3
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page