Severn Beach line - timetables, engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)

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[Chris from Nailsea]

... Ollie? 

[Ollie]

Apologies - I looked at the wrong timetable

Seeing as the updated timetable - available on the page that bnm linked to is published. It won't appear on the "Alterations Page" as it is in the published timetable and therefore not an alteration.

[JayMac]

But that page is called ' Timetable alterations and engineering works'

Other engineering works have had their revised timetables published and had an entry on the 'alterations' page.

To be fair to FGW^▸ (First Great Western), amended timetables are at SVB Line stations pointing out that it will be RRBs^▸ (Rail Replacement Bus) for the next 6 Sundays.

[Ollie]

Well even the page opens by saying:

"Below is a summary of changes to the published timetable.

Please note that the following list only shows alterations (and engineering works) to our printed timetables. Details of some, usually longer term periods of disruption are often included in our printed timetables."

[JaminBob]

Ok I'm really confused. Whilst i do trust the knowledge of people here, I can't find 'official' confirmation online anywhere...

Are you saying that as it is a published change to the timetable, that it does not show up on alterations? Or it is in the original timetable?

Edit: http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Documents/Custom/SEPT%202011%20TT/GW11S_TT29_(7).pdf

Ok.

[Timmer]

I don't know if this is as a result of this discussion here at the Coffee Shop or someone flagging this up, but FGW^▸ (First Great Western) have posted a pdf of the poster of the revised timetable showing rail replacement bus services on their Timetable Alterations and Engineering Works page where you normally expect to find these sort of details:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=720

FGW used to put pdfs of station posters showing revised timetables at times of engineering work on this page but for some reason stopped doing this instead publishing just the current summary of works taking place pages instead which isn't a lot of use IMHO^▸ (in my humble opinion). When FGW launch their new website soon will improved information about revisions due to engineering work be part of it? Would be good.

[JayMac]

Now that does make sense.

Details about timetable alterations and engineering work on a webpage titled, 'Timetable alterations & engineering work'

What a novel idea! 

[Chris from Nailsea]

[phile]

Somebody has posted this topic on another Forum and accuses FGW^▸ (First Great Western) of being too lazy to post the alterations on their Website.    Neither are they posted on BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Rail Travel News (430).   The line is actually closed between Bristol Parkway and Bristol Temple Meads with rail replacement buses.   (I have posted another thread on a different matter relating to this occupation on the Cardiff to Portsmouth Board
These are not Timetable Alterations as such but are part of the Published Timetable covering a dated period from September 18th to October 23rd.   This indicates there is no need for FGW to publish as alterations

[JayMac]

They are part of some published timetables. The printed National Rail Timetable doesn't contain the amended times and the electronic National Rail Timetable contains incorrect information for the Severn Beach Line during the engineering period.

So, I think FGW^▸ (First Great Western) should publish the details on their 'alterations'  - as they have now done. Also updating the 'timetables' page as well.

My personal view is that both pages should be kept up to date. That wasn't the case last week, but things on the website are much clearer now, so thanks to FGW for that.

Now, I wonder what prompted the updating of all the timetables? FGW aren't particularly well known for keeping their website up to date. I'm still waiting for details of the remaining Meet the Manager sessions for example. Thus far only details of 12 have been published on the website. There are supposed to be 25 a year, 1st Apr-31st March. Those Managers are going to have a busy winter fitting in those remaining 13 sessions, 8 of which have to be on High Speed services.

[phile]

There are other TOCs^▸ (Train Operating Company) which publish such alterations which vary from the norm even if published in the Timetable.   An instance on BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Travel today in respect of XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) operating replacement buses between Bristol Parkway and Bristol Temple Meads.

[JaminBob]

They are part of some published timetables. The printed National Rail Timetable doesn't contain the amended times and the electronic National Rail Timetable contains incorrect information for the Severn Beach Line during the engineering period.

I suppose the point is that I use the SB^▸ (Signal Box) line nearly every week day (admittedly rarely on sundays) and ended up hearing about this change from you guys. Which i would suggest is not ideal 

[phile]

The Severn Beach line is shewn as Timetable alterations but not Bristol to Worcester (Sundays usual destination)

[rich0099]

Just received via txt alert from FGW^▸ (First Great Western):

"Services between Severn Beach & Avonmouth will be altered Fri, Sat, Sun. Please check www.fgw.co.uk for details."

Via website:

"Alterations to services between Severn Beach, St Andrews Road, Avonmouth and Bristol Temple Meads from Friday 10th February until Sunday 12th February inclusive.

Due to essential engineering work at St Andrews Road, train services will not be able to operate between Severn Beach, St Andrews Road and Avonmouth from start of service on Friday 10th February until 1600 on Sunday 12th February. Replacement road transport will be in operation between these Stations and to take customers onwards to Stations to Bristol Temple Meads (as required).

Customers are advised to check this website at 1400 this afternoon for further details."
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I'm guessing it's something to do with the current SAR speed restrictions at the level crossing. I was told that a lorry shed some concrete over it.

[JayMac]

Nuts!

Fingers crossed the problem is sorted for Sunday AM. I've planned to be out surveying passengers on the down service to SVB at 0908 and it's return.