New railway stations proposed for Cranbrook, Newcourt and Marsh Barton (merged topic)

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[Chris from Nailsea]

From the BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

Devon eco-town of Cranbrook given planning permission

A new eco-community is to be built in Devon after being given outline planning permission.

Legal documents have now been signed by developers, landowners and councils to pave the way for work to start on building the town of Cranbrook.

The site, east of Exeter, will see the construction of about 3,000 homes.

The scheme, to help address housing needs and tackle climate change, is one of a number of environmentally-friendly new settlements to be built in England.

Cranbrook will be home to schools, a community centre, energy plant and library.

It will also have strong transport links as planners are to give it a dedicated bus route to Exeter and build a railway station on the Exeter to Waterloo line.

Sara Randall Johnson, leader of East Devon District Council, said: "We have stuck to our guns in making provision for vital social and community facilities at Cranbrook. We want to encourage the new community to quickly develop its own sense of place and to become a splendid addition to the existing market towns of East Devon and a worthy neighbour to the nearby City of Exeter."

Work on the new houses, which will be built by developers including Redrow, Taylor Wimpey and Persimmon, is expected to start early next year.

[Bob_Blakey]

The latest planning information is available at http://www.eastdevon.gov.uk/cranbrook_second_amendments

Call me 'Mr Cynic', but I rather suspect that the title of this thread should really be 'New Station at Cranbrook sometime in the next 10 years, funding availability permitting'.

For reasons which I completely fail to understand Cranbrook New Town has been planned so that it cannot make use of the nearby disused Broadclyst station, thereby increasing both cost and provision timescale.

[paul7575]

If the council have got the legal issues sorted properly, the station should be developer funded under a S106 agreement, and there should be a guarantee that it is built before the housing gets to a certain number.

I found this: 
"The application proposals include provision for a new station which is capable of
construction and operation in the first phase of development. The applicants are
committed to providing financial contributions towards securing the early delivery of
the station."
But no explicit mention of a S106 agreement.

The station location has apparently been optimised for lack of platform curvature and lack of gradients, supposedly according to HMRI^▸ (Her Majesty's Railway Inspectorate) guidance, but also positioned for other expected developments west of Cranbrook:
"Although the station is to be located on the site of the new community, the station will
have a substantive role to play in the access strategy for all major developments to
the east of Exeter, including the airport, Skypark and the Intermodal."

Paul

[FlyingDutchman]

Hi

I can't find much information exeter  Intermodal Freight Facility ans cranbook station

Guy

[Feckham]

Hi

I can't find much information exeter  Intermodal Freight Facility ans cranbook station

Guy

Try http://www.eastdevon.gov.uk/intermodal_facility

HTH

Feckham

[Andy]

I hope the double track formation is not encroached upon when the new station is built. 

[Chris from Nailsea]

From the BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

Devon 'eco-town' Cranbrook gets access road permission

Planning permission has been granted for a road in east Devon to be built as the main access route to a new so-called eco-community.

The town of Cranbrook, east of Exeter, will have about 3,000 homes.

East Devon District Council said the road would be located on land east of Station Road in the village of Broadclyst, and north of the old A30.

Work on the first section of the route is planned to begin next spring, ahead of the main development.

The Cranbrook scheme, which supporters say will help address housing needs and tackle climate change, is one of a number of environmentally-friendly new settlements to be built in England.

It will include schools, a community centre, an energy plant and a library.

The town will also have strong transport links as planners are to give it a dedicated bus route to Exeter, as well as build a railway station on the Exeter to Waterloo line.

Developers including Persimmon, Redrow and Taylor Wimpey are involved in the project.

[Chris from Nailsea]

From the BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

Work set to start on new town at Cranbrook in Devon

Work could start within weeks on the first phase of a new town in Devon.

As well as more than 3,000 new homes, Cranbrook will have schools, a community centre, an energy plant and a library.

The aim is to tackle housing need in east Devon and ensure strong transport links with a dedicated railway station and bus route.

East Devon District Council described Cranbrook as an "eco-trailblazer".

Outline planning permission for an initial 1,100 homes was granted last October.

[noddingdonkey]

I bet it won't have a library let alone a railway station.

[Bob_Blakey]

http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/news/New-town-s-rail-station-track/article-3318802-detail/article.html

Yet more proof, were it needed, that our elected representatives (in this case EDDC) don't have a clue when it comes to transport planning; this decision means that new residents will be in their homes for, probably, at least 12 months before the station opens.

No prizes for guessing what happens when they are asked to swap transport mode from car to train.

[bambam]

I bet it won't have a library let alone a railway station.

It will if that's terms of their planning permission.

The advantage of using a spare unit here is that the homes are new so people are more likely to be enticed, like it has been mentioned Feniton and Whimple should get a more frequent service while SWT^▸ (South West Trains) to London should be sped up (a train adds 3 minutes to the journey time for each station stop, so taking out Pinhoe, Fenition and Whimple and adding in Cranbrook would give them a saving of at least 6 mintes) and this would enhance the service to Honiton and Axminster, both substantial towns.

Am I right in thinking that each hour their are 2 cross country trains and 2 First Great Western HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) each hour from Exeter to Plymouth? If so couldn't one of these stop at Dawlish and Teignmouth and could it even be diverted to Paignton. 3 trains an hour from Exeter to Plymouth is still good going for Exeter-Plymouth and it would provide the Cornish Riveria with a high quality service.

[devon_metro]

I bet it won't have a library let alone a railway station.

It will if that's terms of their planning permission.

The advantage of using a spare unit here is that the homes are new so people are more likely to be enticed, like it has been mentioned Feniton and Whimple should get a more frequent service while SWT^▸ (South West Trains) to London should be sped up (a train adds 3 minutes to the journey time for each station stop, so taking out Pinhoe, Fenition and Whimple and adding in Cranbrook would give them a saving of at least 6 mintes) and this would enhance the service to Honiton and Axminster, both substantial towns.

Am I right in thinking that each hour their are 2 cross country trains and 2 First Great Western HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) each hour from Exeter to Plymouth? If so couldn't one of these stop at Dawlish and Teignmouth and could it even be diverted to Paignton. 3 trains an hour from Exeter to Plymouth is still good going for Exeter-Plymouth and it would provide the Cornish Riveria with a high quality service.

1 Cross Country and 1 GW^▸ (Great Western) HST per hour roughly, less at certain times of day, more at peaks etc.

[bambam]

1 Cross Country and 1 GW^▸ (Great Western) HST^▸ (High Speed Train) per hour roughly, less at certain times of day, more at peaks etc.

Is there only one train from Paddington to Exeter each hour?

Also what happens to the Manchester to the southwest train then?

[devon_metro]

1 Cross Country and 1 GW^▸ (Great Western) HST^▸ (High Speed Train) per hour roughly, less at certain times of day, more at peaks etc.

Is there only one train from Paddington to Exeter each hour?

Also what happens to the Manchester to the southwest train then?

Typically one train per hour Paddington - Plymouth, Manchester trains generally terminate at Bristol Temple Meads, only certain continuing south to Plymouth/Paignton

[FarWestJohn]

There is more information here on new stations in Devon:

http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/Stations-planned-improve-rail-network/story-12759964-detail/story.html?

From This is Exeter today:

The council has undertaken an appraisal as part of a larger transport strategy.

A county council spokesman said: "We are continuing to work on feasibility designs and a preliminary economic assessment for the Devon Metro project."

It is predicted that 828 passengers a day would use a station at Marsh Barton, on the Exeter to Dawlish line, or 1,316 if the service is improved.

The report states: "Marsh Barton look to be well justified, serving significant residential and employment [areas]."

The scheme is in the exploratory stages and is not included in any funding programme until 2019.

The need for new stations at proposed city developments at Newcourt and Monkerton is also highlighted.

The report states: "Both the Newcourt and Monkerton potential new stations would generate significant patronage serving existing and future development."

A suggestion that there could be a new station to the north of Exmouth, on the Avocet^▸ (Branch line from Exeter to Exmouth) line, is also put forward.

The document states: "The forecast patronage for Exmouth North represents additional passengers compared with the existing Exmouth station.

"In reality Exmouth North would be more convenient and would attract some passengers from Exmouth station as the analysis of existing rail users showed that Exmouth station attracts passengers from a wide area using nearby parking, cycle facilities, drop off etc.

"Also parking at Exmouth station is often full and Exmouth North would provide additional car parking for increased train capacity and frequency.

"Additional development in north Exmouth would strengthen the case for Exmouth North station, but a suitable station site would need to be found."

The report also suggests there could be new stations along the Exeter to Newton Abbot line and on the Torbay branch line, including Edginswell and Kingskerswell, although it is unlikely both stations would be progressed.

The report states: "On the Torbay line new stations at Marsh Barton and Edginswell are forecast to generate high levels of patronage while both Kingskerswell and Exminster would be much lower."

The forecasts expect there could be 240 passengers a day using Kingskerswell, and if the rail service was improved that figure could jump to 359.