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« Reply #150 on: January 11, 2016, 08:38:09 pm »

One fears that the delays on the Filton Bank 4 tracking, in part at least caused by lack of mapping and recording of underground utilities (now having to be found and uncovered by spadework) will blight this new station too. Old works done "on the cheap" all those years back are having their payback time.

Buy it cheap, pay for it twice, eh?
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« Reply #151 on: January 12, 2016, 06:33:19 pm »

The waste to energy plant nearby was only built recently, so one would hope the services are fairly well mapped now.
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« Reply #152 on: January 13, 2016, 10:10:58 pm »

One fears that the delays on the Filton Bank 4 tracking, in part at least caused by lack of mapping and recording of underground utilities (now having to be found and uncovered by spadework) will blight this new station too. Old works done "on the cheap" all those years back are having their payback time.

Buy it cheap, pay for it twice, eh?

Yes, and the rest too I fear, let's hope Rapidash's observation is correct and the services have been mapped as a result of the waste to energy plant construction...at least to a significant degree.
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« Reply #153 on: January 19, 2016, 10:05:53 am »


Buy it cheap, pay for it twice, eh?


...or, as they used to say at a large aero-engine manufacturer I once worked for: Never enough money to do it right, always enough money to do it twice.
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« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2016, 11:31:55 am »


Buy it cheap, pay for it twice, eh?


...or, as they used to say at a large aero-engine manufacturer I once worked for: Never enough money to do it right, always enough money to do it twice.

Is that why planes have two engines  Smiley
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« Reply #155 on: January 19, 2016, 03:43:19 pm »


Is that why planes have two engines  Smiley

No. That's to double your chances of an engine failure.
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« Reply #156 on: January 26, 2016, 07:30:45 pm »

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planning application has been submitted for the new Edginswell railway station on the outskirts of Torquay.

This follows a presentation of the draft plans to the   local Community Partnership group in December where a number of comments and feedback were received.

Torbay Council says these have now been incorporated, where possible, into the new application and address the design, landscaping, ecology and flood risk concerns.

The new station, which is supported by Torbay Council, is expected to open in 2018, and will consist of two platforms, both with access to shelters, ticket machines, real time information lighting and CCTV.

The station will be fully accessible to all with pedestrian access from both Newton Road and Riviera Way via steps, ramps and a footbridge to platform level.



I'm surprised it's got this far, considering the lack of funding.
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« Reply #157 on: February 28, 2017, 11:13:36 pm »

Has anyone been travelling past the proposed Marsh Barton station site recently? Last I heard construction was due to start by now but despite the great progress Devon Metro has  made in the last few years I wonder if this one is up and running.
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« Reply #158 on: March 01, 2017, 05:52:53 pm »

Has anyone been travelling past the proposed Marsh Barton station site recently? Last I heard construction was due to start by now but despite the great progress Devon Metro has  made in the last few years I wonder if this one is up and running.

Not much obvious work going on other than some lineside clearance as reported by Devonlive.com early last year!!  It was subsequently delayed as Network Rail wanted do so further investigations.
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« Reply #159 on: March 01, 2017, 09:07:11 pm »

Marsh Barton is the subject of a bid to the Government's New Stations' Fund.  Waiting on the decision (hopefully by the end of the month).

The latest view is that it would open in December 18, all being well.  Same time as the half hourly Exeter - Paignton local service is introduced.
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« Reply #160 on: March 01, 2017, 09:16:53 pm »

Thank you for those updates. With the uncertainty of the funding bid and that it may be granted at the earliest this month, the December 2017 opening forecast looks unlikely given the usual delays that new station construction is prone to.
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« Reply #161 on: October 27, 2017, 07:49:59 am »

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Fears Marsh Barton train halt plan will be scrapped

Teignbridge Council said they are still budgeting for the new £7.4m station to be built

A new £7.4million railway station in Exeter ‘will still happen’ - despite the project being on hold due to a lack of funding.
The building of a two-platform station at Marsh Barton was due get under way at the end of 2016, only for it to be delayed for technical reasons.

A new start date of early 2017 was then given but Devon County Council had previously confirmed that the project is on hold pending the next round of Government funding.

It is all part of a project to create a Devon Metro frequent train service linking Exeter with other parts of Devon.


A concept drawing of the proposed Marsh Barton train station in Exeter

But the bid for the new station at Marsh Barton, near Clapperbrook Lane, was unsuccessful as part of the latest DFT New Stations Fund – as was a bid for a new station in Edginswell in Torquay.

There won't be any more grants for New Stations until 2020 from the Government, but Rosalyn Eastman - planning officer for Teignbridge Council, confirmed at Tuesday’s planning meeting that the council were still committed to trying to fund the station and that it would still happen.

She said: We have committed funds to the project, and county council have said they would as well. We do want it to happen, but I am not aware of the exact funding position today. But I have been told that the station will happen, but I cannot be sure of when.”

The project to build the new station was due to be completed by the end of the year - but that date now seems incredibly unlikely.


The site of the proposed Marsh Barton train station at Clapperbrook Lane

A Devon County Council spokesman had said: “We are extremely disappointed not to receive funding from the latest round of New Stations Funding and, as a result, it unfortunately means that the proposed scheme for a station at Marsh Barton will now be further delayed.

“In making its decision on funding, the Department for Transport shared our concerns at the substantial rise in costs, but they recognised that the scheme has merit, and we will be taking them up on their offer to review the scheme with them and Network Rail. The scheme will remain on hold until this meeting can be arranged with the DfT.”

They added this week that since they had not been granted the New Stations Funding, there had been no update on the funding position.


The Devon Metro proposals (Image: Devon County Council)

The railway station, near Clapperbrook Lane, will eventually serve thousands of staff who work at the city’s largest employment site, if and when it is built.

It is hoped the new station it will encourage rail travel and help to ease road congestion in the area.
When the scheme for the two-platform station was granted planning permission in 2015 the cost was estimated at £4.33million – it is now expected to be in excess of £3million more.
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« Reply #162 on: July 23, 2018, 05:00:09 pm »

Moving the goal posts?

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Back in March, it was announced by Cllr Stuart Barker, cabinet member for economy and skills, that the funding deficit is expected to be closed within the next six months.

Cllr Alan Connett asked ‘when does Devon County Council anticipate the new rail station at Marsh Barton will be in use’ at the full council meeting last Thursday.

In response, Cllr Andrea Davis, Cabinet Member for Infrastructure, Development and Waste , said: “The situation at Marsh Barton Station is that we had a station design that met Network Rail’s design standards as agreed by the steering group (which includes Network Rail).

“However, following the award of the contract to design and build the station, Network Rail's design standards changed. This has led to the design being changed and subsequent rising costs and a funding gap. We have discussed this with the Department for Transport who shared our concerns, but they have recognised the merit of the scheme.

“The opening of the Station is dependent on closing the funding gap. We are working on several options including reducing costs and securing additional sources of funding from Network Rail and potentially the GWR franchise extension. Also, we have recently submitted a bid to Government for further funds as part of national bidding process. So, at present we have no planned date for bringing the station into use.”
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« Reply #163 on: July 23, 2018, 07:09:03 pm »

Grahame,  Thats quite concerning.  In my time specifying things like this, once a design had been agreed, construction proceeds to the standards in force at that time.  The only exception would be if a safety issue was involved when the change would be varied into the contract.  I guess the problem here is that it seems NR is not the implementation contractor and thus feels it doesn't have anything to lose..... Angry
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