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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2008, 10:45:28 »

Signalling interlocks do indeed stop signals from being set until points are locked in place. Likely a spad.

Can also confirm that the incident was not the result of a SPAD (Signal Passed At Danger).


Poorly maintained track/points or wagon fault?
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2008, 21:53:19 »

Signalling interlocks do indeed stop signals from being set until points are locked in place. Likely a spad.

Can also confirm that the incident was not the result of a SPAD (Signal Passed At Danger).


Poorly maintained track/points or wagon fault?

Neither of the above.
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2008, 21:56:27 »

So what was it then?Huh
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2008, 00:12:14 »

66 prone to brake problems?
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2008, 17:42:31 »

66 prone to brake problems?

No class 66 involved.  Wink
Human error but not on the part of the on train personnel. Still under formal investigation.
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2008, 20:48:17 »

59202 up to its cab in dirt, according to the pictures??  See http://midis.fotopic.net/p54880517.html

Thanks for your suitably 'diplomatic' comment, TheSprinterMeister!  Wink Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2008, 23:12:43 »

66 prone to brake problems?

Ooops, apologies for my poorly maintained eyesight and memory. Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

Not broken tie bars again?

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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2008, 23:16:05 »

No problem, tramway!

I'm just rather amused that TheSprinterMeister clearly knows rather more than he's letting on!  Wink Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2008, 23:27:18 »

I'm just rather amused that TheSprinterMeister clearly knows rather more than he's letting on!  Wink Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2008, 00:50:46 »

something placed on the line or left there in error
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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2008, 21:24:34 »

No problem, tramway!

I'm just rather amused that TheSprinterMeister clearly knows rather more than he's letting on!  Wink Cheesy Grin
You might think that, I couldnt possibly comment. Wink

The answers that you all seek are within my last post. Grin
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2008, 11:59:22 »

Indeed, somebodys in the dog house!!
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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2008, 23:16:26 »

Indeed, somebodys in the dog house!!

I haven't heard it called that before  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2008, 13:47:10 »

The RAIB (Rail Accident Investigation Branch) have just added this derailment to the list of current investigations on their website.

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The RAIB is carrying out an investigation into a derailment that occurred at East Somerset Junction on 10 November 2008.

The accident occurred at 02:33 hrs when the two locomotives hauling the delayed 22:31 hrs (9 November) service from Merehead Quarry in Somerset to Acton Yard in west London derailed at low speed on trap points as the train approached the main line at East Somerset Junction. The train was operated by English Welsh & Scottish (EWS (English Welsh & Scottish Railway Ltd, now known as DB Schenker Rail (UK (United Kingdom)))) Railway Ltd. There were no injuries arising from the derailment, and only minor damage to the track, signalling equipment and the two locomotives. Train services between Westbury and Castle Cary were disrupted until 12:40 hrs on 11 November 2008, pending recovery of the locomotives and repairs to the infrastructure.

The RAIB's preliminary examination indicates no issues with the condition and operation of the train or the condition of the track that could have contributed to the accident.

The RAIB's investigation is independent of any investigations by the safety authority.

The RAIB will publish a report, including any recommendations to improve safety, at the conclusion of its investigation. This report will be available on the RAIB website.

So as TSM (Track Section Manager) said, not the fault of the train crew or a failure of the train.

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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2008, 20:20:16 »

I know where that is (I live near there), thats at Witham Friary between Bruton Station and Frome Branch Line. The line goes up towards Torr works and divides at Wanstrow to Torr works quarry and Cranmore (ESR (Emergency Speed Restriction )) Smiley
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