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« Reply #690 on: August 21, 2014, 22:52:41 »

Here are John R's photos:



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« Reply #691 on: August 22, 2014, 07:51:44 »

Thank you the trout.
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« Reply #692 on: August 22, 2014, 08:57:06 »

This was tweeted earlier this morning and contains pictures of the refurbished First Class vehicles.

http://www.businesstraveller.com/news/100786/first-great-western-unveils-refurbished-first-c




Edit note: Purely in the interests of ease of viewing this particular very topical item, I'm taking the unusual step of editing this post to include links to the actual pictures in that news item (which are all ^ Business Traveller):



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« Reply #693 on: August 22, 2014, 10:08:01 »

All looks very smart, better than anticipated in fact.

But seriously FGW (First Great Western): 'First Great Western says that the new interiors ^reflect the top three priorities of first class customers ^ space, privacy and productivity^.' In other words, what was lost by withdrawing an entire First Class coach from even the busiest services...
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« Reply #694 on: August 22, 2014, 10:46:42 »

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First Great Western is also converting one first class carriage per train into its standard offering (leaving either one or one and a half first class carriages per train).

Eh?....you sure about that....?
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« Reply #695 on: August 25, 2014, 17:19:07 »

That 'GWR (Great Western Railway)' logo has been trademarked by First Greater Western Limited (on 16th July 2014) for a wide range of uses beyond just antimacassars on 1st Class seats.

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00003064468

In place for a name change at a later date perhaps? Unlikely there'll be wholesale company branding and livery changes before a new full length franchise is awarded, but maybe indicative of the direction First Group are taking with the Greater Western franchise. Dropping the word 'First' for starters.

Still have to win the next full length franchise of course...
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« Reply #696 on: August 25, 2014, 17:42:37 »

FGW (First Great Western) said they'd done it this way in case they didn't get either the direct award or later franchise. Removing First branding at either change was considered a risk too far, and this would be acceptable by everyone concerned.
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« Reply #697 on: August 25, 2014, 17:50:20 »

Does the new layout provide any extra seats per carriage?
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« Reply #698 on: August 25, 2014, 17:52:05 »

Maybe a couple due to the airline seats for the single seats.
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« Reply #699 on: August 25, 2014, 19:57:35 »

There is a seating map for Coach L on thetrainline.com

Although only 7 of the 15 airline seats have numbers.

Does this indicate that reservations will be restricted?

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« Reply #700 on: August 25, 2014, 20:11:47 »

I think it more likely that the reservation system has to take into account that there is no guarantee which 'type' of coach L will be available on a given service. No point offering seat reservations for the new style layout coach when an unrefurbished one may turn up on the day. Otherwise there's a chance a reservation will be given for a seat that, on the day, doesn't exist.

Not unlike what happens in Standard Class with certain seats being unreservable in the high density layout coaches (2 tables in coaches A,B,D, none in coach C) versus low density (4 tables A,B,D, 3 in C).
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« Reply #701 on: August 25, 2014, 22:10:03 »

Maybe a couple due to the airline seats for the single seats.

I wondered that, but looking at your photo above it looks like the four airline seats are occupying the same space as two sets of seats with tables used to do - In other words they appear to align with the tabled seats on the other side of the carriage.  Could be just an illusion in the photograph though.
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« Reply #702 on: August 26, 2014, 20:23:50 »

Purely for ease of future reference, I have edited a member's previous post, at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=4600.msg159801#msg159801 to include the actual images.

Hope this helps. CfN.  Smiley
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« Reply #703 on: August 27, 2014, 18:27:30 »

I have noticed in the last few weeks revenue protection have been emptying people out of First Class on the TV services, quite a few grumpy people about who actually never make the effort to sit in Standard just sit in First Class automatically
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« Reply #704 on: August 27, 2014, 20:44:44 »

From ITV News, a video report:

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First Great Western has been showing off a new look for its first class carriages with a brand new logo on the seats.

It's part of major changes to the companies fleet of high speed trains which will see fewer first class seats to make way for more in standard class.

Over the next year scores of carriages will be improved which is part of a ^13 million upgrade.

Quite what that grimace at the end of the video was all about, I have no idea.  Roll Eyes
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