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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2009, 18:25:25 »

Not sure what has happened to cause this drop in unit availability!
Not been the best of weekend for it to happen being a bank holiday/half term week.
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2009, 20:58:50 »

Surely though if the HST (High Speed Train) was that stretched, they wouldn't have been able to diagram that additional HST last Saturday? Wouldn't that set be available at the same time next Saturday?
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2009, 21:00:12 »

HSTs (High Speed Train) to Weymouth aren't a feasible option. 8 carriages is too many, and they require a special type of bogie to avoid risk of shorting out on the 3rd rail.
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2009, 21:02:28 »

the only way hst's would run to time on that service without removing stops is to remove coaches, too much messing around for one service
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2009, 23:30:06 »

Hmmm - while I understand about the length of the trains being a problem - I cannot see the 3rd rail being an issue.

HSTs (High Speed Train) have run regularly to Bournemouth, Poole and Portsmouth in the past, as well as diversions into Waterloo and i'm told no modification had to be made to them. If the risk of them shorting out was that great, HSTs would be banned from 3rd rail lines as per 143s surely?
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2009, 23:42:02 »

yeh you dont normally see mk 3's bouncing like pacers
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2009, 23:48:38 »

Hmmm - while I understand about the length of the trains being a problem - I cannot see the 3rd rail being an issue.

HSTs (High Speed Train) have run regularly to Bournemouth, Poole and Portsmouth in the past, as well as diversions into Waterloo and i'm told no modification had to be made to them. If the risk of them shorting out was that great, HSTs would be banned from 3rd rail lines as per 143s surely?

For Hsts to run on 3rd rail they need Short Swing Link SSL (Short Swing Link bogies (125)) bogies. XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) sets had these.
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2009, 23:53:53 »

this is a wild guess... im guessing the chance of actual contact is very slim if not impossible? is it to prevent arc'ing
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2009, 23:57:26 »

The Sprinter Meister is the person to ask. I read a detailed answer of his elsewhere today.
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2009, 14:10:08 »

Buffet Refurbishment possibly...?
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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2009, 01:12:07 »

HST (High Speed Train) was definitely a 'last minute' decision caused by acute set shortages mainly caused by the fatality near 'Tuckers' crossing, Bradford on Avon. Set was operated by a 'High Speed' (HSS (High Speed Services)) crew (Bristol based presumably), as they had the traction knowledge, with them being piloted by a 'West' crew (Bristol or Westbury based), as they had the route knowledge.

One way an untrained eye can tell if an FGW (First Great Western) HST set is formed of SSL (Short Swing Link bogies (125)) fitted vehicles is that the letters SSL or LSL(resolve) are usually displayed at the ends of the carriages, depending on which type is fitted.
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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2009, 10:23:25 »

Indeed. On Saturday 2x158/9s and 1x150/2 were taken out for inspection after than fatality.

8 carriages is quite a substantial amount!
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2009, 10:58:37 »

To be fair this is not the first time a FGW (First Great Western) HST (High Speed Train) has run over 3rd rail territory this year, dont forget they sent a HST set down to Fratton in January for the Portsmouth vs Swansea match.
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2009, 11:28:45 »

To be fair this is not the first time a FGW (First Great Western) HST (High Speed Train) has run over 3rd rail territory this year, dont forget they sent a HST set down to Fratton in January for the Portsmouth vs Swansea match.

Twice!
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2009, 22:24:59 »

Hi, fullspeedahead - thanks for your post, and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum!  Smiley
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