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« Reply #1665 on: January 11, 2024, 14:36:28 »


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 I do not like the idea of trying to bribe me with my own money.

It's what politicos of all persuasions have done since for ever.  Very few of them will admit it, though.  It's all "Government funding" according to most.  And it seems that an unhealthy portion of the country doesn't see through it

HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) is being funded by borrowing money so cancelling it doesn't free up money for "bribes" or any other purpose......indeed this was one of the main arguments from the pro HS2 minority when others said that the money would be better spent on the NHS.
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« Reply #1666 on: January 11, 2024, 18:00:53 »


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 I do not like the idea of trying to bribe me with my own money.

It's what politicos of all persuasions have done since for ever.  Very few of them will admit it, though.  It's all "Government funding" according to most.  And it seems that an unhealthy portion of the country doesn't see through it

HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) is being funded by borrowing money so cancelling it doesn't free up money for "bribes" or any other purpose......indeed this was one of the main arguments from the pro HS2 minority when others said that the money would be better spent on the NHS.

It's the perception though... as long as the government convinces the swayable motoring vote that they've diverted money from that silly HS2 to road maintenance it's a win*.

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« Reply #1667 on: January 21, 2024, 09:05:21 »

Interesting article - ran on BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Breakfast this morning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjjg5z00l3yo
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« Reply #1668 on: January 21, 2024, 11:09:25 »

Another interesting article, ran in todays Sunday Express:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1858019/HS2-revived-private-finance
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« Reply #1669 on: January 26, 2024, 19:24:27 »


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 I do not like the idea of trying to bribe me with my own money.

HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) is being funded by borrowing money so cancelling it doesn't free up money for "bribes" or any other purpose......indeed this was one of the main arguments from the pro HS2 minority when others said that the money would be better spent on the NHS.

Absolutely correct, which makes it even worse. I am instead being bribed with money that doesn't exist.

Another interesting article, ran in todays Sunday Express:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1858019/HS2-revived-private-finance

It is interesting, and has been rumoured for a while. The various mayors with actual power oop t'north have been the most outraged by the cancellation, having spent the past 15 years working out transport and building plans on the assumption that HS2 was coming. It does rather give the government a crafty way out if they can broker a deal, because it could be spun as close working with the regional authorities. But wasn't it all going to be built by private contractors using money borrowed from institutions?
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« Reply #1670 on: February 07, 2024, 07:11:48 »

......just covered on BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Breakfast;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68217031?at_medium=RSS (Regional Spatial Strategy)&at_campaign=KARANGA
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« Reply #1671 on: February 07, 2024, 09:23:32 »


The price we’ve paid so Rishi can sort out those pesky potholes.
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« Reply #1672 on: February 07, 2024, 18:10:03 »


They've got to be levelled up.
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« Reply #1673 on: February 14, 2024, 17:42:40 »


When rail infrastructure is in poor condition, it is common practice to impose a lower speed restriction then previously, in order that trains may still run safely albeit with delays. These reduced speeds sometimes remain in place for years, pending major repairs, or closure.
Not aware of this happening regularly with roads ! "temporary speed restriction of 20 MPH for next 5 miles due to potholes"
Reduced speeds would reduce the consequences of hitting potholes or other defects, AND ALSO reduce the chance of such defects becoming worse.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1674 on: February 18, 2024, 05:56:55 »

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BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) News - HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) Chiltern Tunnel sinkholes appear in Buckinghamshire
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-68326138
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« Reply #1675 on: February 18, 2024, 07:35:15 »

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BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) News - HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) Chiltern Tunnel sinkholes appear in Buckinghamshire
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-68326138

Sink holes in the Chiltern are not an unknown phenonium
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« Reply #1676 on: February 18, 2024, 13:44:56 »

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BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) News - HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) Chiltern Tunnel sinkholes appear in Buckinghamshire
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-68326138

The Environment Agency is looking into them.

Previous holes have been filled in with no discernible problem, as have other sink holes in the land that were not related to HS2. I don't think there are any schools or nuclear power stations along the route.
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« Reply #1677 on: February 18, 2024, 20:06:59 »

That overhead power-carrying pylon is a tad close for comfort. Imagine the power cuts if that had been on top of one of the sinkholes
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« Reply #1678 on: February 18, 2024, 23:45:52 »

I think that's close to where Cecilia is. Florence is a bit further on, at the northern portal, waiting for a suitable opportunity to emerge. That was meant to a minister's hard-hat opportunity, but a number of things recently have made ministers a bit twitchy about doing such things. I don't suppose this helps.
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« Reply #1679 on: February 19, 2024, 07:58:45 »

I think that's close to where Cecilia is. Florence is a bit further on, at the northern portal, waiting for a suitable opportunity to emerge. That was meant to a minister's hard-hat opportunity, but a number of things recently have made ministers a bit twitchy about doing such things. I don't suppose this helps.

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) (Paul Clifton) reporting that Tuesday’s media visit to film the tunnelling ‘breakthrough’ beneath the Chilterns a short distance from the sinkholes has been postponed.

A coincidence I'm sure!
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