Problems with car parking at Liskeard since charges were introduced by FGW

[whole diary]

[Mookiemoo]

I don't like the way that station car parks are treated as not just for rail users.

Non travellers or those not pre-booking should continue to pay similar rates to those currently charged if not higher.

In my opinion, if Rail Cornwall's idea was taken up, I would expect the "non travellers' " rate to be sky high to stop shoppers clogging up spaces.

But there should be several free 20 mins max spaces, to allow people to see off/ collect and use the ticket office.

But then there is the WOS^» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) loophole!

If you park in a 20 minute space - you dont get a ticket

Ever

Not once in two years! (sorry flamingo - another I know its wrong but,,,,,,,,,,)

[RailCornwall]

Permit to park machines, time and date stamped would resolve that issue, or simply get the normal parking machine to issue tickets valid for 30 mins FOC^▸ (Freight Operating Company).

[JayMac]

I don't like the way that station car parks are treated as not just for rail users.

Non travellers or those not pre-booking should continue to pay similar rates to those currently charged if not higher.

In my opinion, if Rail Cornwall's idea was taken up, I would expect the "non travellers' " rate to be sky high to stop shoppers clogging up spaces.

But there should be several free 20 mins max spaces, to allow people to see off/ collect and use the ticket office.

But then there is the WOS^» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) loophole!

If you park in a 20 minute space - you dont get a ticket

Ever

Not once in two years! (sorry flamingo - another I know its wrong but,,,,,,,,,,)

"I know it's wrong but....." is no excuse. Try using that defence in court and see how far you get

[devon_metro]

Fraud is fraud

[Mookiemoo]

I don't like the way that station car parks are treated as not just for rail users.

Non travellers or those not pre-booking should continue to pay similar rates to those currently charged if not higher.

In my opinion, if Rail Cornwall's idea was taken up, I would expect the "non travellers' " rate to be sky high to stop shoppers clogging up spaces.

But there should be several free 20 mins max spaces, to allow people to see off/ collect and use the ticket office.

But then there is the WOS^» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) loophole!

If you park in a 20 minute space - you dont get a ticket

Ever

Not once in two years! (sorry flamingo - another I know its wrong but,,,,,,,,,,)

"I know it's wrong but....." is no excuse. Try using that defence in court and see how far you get

I would not

if I ever got a ticket id just pay it

never have

[JayMac]

I don't like the way that station car parks are treated as not just for rail users.

Non travellers or those not pre-booking should continue to pay similar rates to those currently charged if not higher.

In my opinion, if Rail Cornwall's idea was taken up, I would expect the "non travellers' " rate to be sky high to stop shoppers clogging up spaces.

But there should be several free 20 mins max spaces, to allow people to see off/ collect and use the ticket office.

But then there is the WOS^» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) loophole!

If you park in a 20 minute space - you dont get a ticket

Ever

Not once in two years! (sorry flamingo - another I know its wrong but,,,,,,,,,,)

"I know it's wrong but....." is no excuse. Try using that defence in court and see how far you get

I would not

if I ever got a ticket id just pay it

never have

Society dictates that we have rules, and the expectation is that these rules are obeyed. Bending (or breaking) them just creates animosity, or a belief that if one person can get away with it, we all can.

And we all know where we'd be without rules, don't we? (Any Al Murray fans - please feel free to add the appropriate rejoinder.....)

[Btline]

France!

And if we had too many rules, where would we be...?

[Chris from Nailsea]

Mussolini's Italy? 

[JayMac]

France!

And if we had too many rules, where would we be...?

Germany 

[Btline]

And if we had rules dictating that all Cotswold village stations should be axed?

Yes - Worcester!

[willc]

I would doubt very much that a ^2 per day charge for parking at the station on top of the fare would be any deterrent to the genuine travelling FGW^▸ (First Great Western) customer.

You doubt it, do you? Well we Brits love a bargain - and love something free even better, so of course they won't pay ^2 if they don't have to.

After Thames Trains started to charge at Moreton-in-Marsh, lots of people just started to park their cars in parts of the High Street and a couple of other roads near to the station, where there are no time restrictions, a situation which persists to this day because the town and county councils seem unable to ever agree on a policy on waiting limits covering the various bits of the roads they are each responsible for. Great for the commuters, not so great for the shoppers and tourists the town depends on for a living who can't find a space.

In Charlbury post-introduction of charging, lots of extra yellow lines were painted along the roads around the station because people just started to park in them all day, rather than cough up a pound or two.

Same problem happens around Bicester North station and has done for years, despite an ever-expanding, now part double-deck car park. There's no need to ask the drivers - you just ask the people who live in the streets affected - as the papers I work for did when the Bicester issue first blew up. They were pretty well placed to spot an influx of cars in the early morning, which all disappeared again by the early evening.

The reason Reading costs a tenner and Oxford station car park is Ring Go-only is because some people worked out that the railways were providing the cheapest all-day parking in town - it took a while longer for the railways to work it out.

Ho, ho, very satirical btline, but if they were shut, then you would be enjoying a journey via Stroud - if you were lucky - remember, we pay the bills, not people from Worcester.

[JayMac]

And if we had rules dictating that all Cotswold village stations should be axed?

Yes - Worcester!

Come back Dr Beeching, all is forgiven

[RailCornwall]

There's an item on the Cornwall Council news pages about the Liskeard parking situation.

[Chris2]

There should be discounted parking available for travellers. I'm not suggesting free, although it would be a good gesture, Simply issue these car parking tickets when booking, which could be left in the car for the duration of the journey, say at ^1.50 per day or part of a day or ^7 per week.

Non travellers or those not pre-booking should continue to pay similar rates to those currently charged if not higher.

It is possible to get parking at Liskeard station for ^1.70 a day by using the Ringgo system, which is better than ^2 a day but I agree ^1.50 a day, ^7.50 a week, would be better. When comparing to other FGW^▸ (First Great Western) stations in Cornwall. Liskeard and Bodmin Parkway get quite a good deal. For example Newquay station is ^7.20 a day and Looe is ^4.40 a day in the summer.

If you are looking at longer duration parking permits for example a month, there are inconsistencies between the daily charge and monthly charges in Cornwall. For example a monthly permit at Liskeard is ^37.50 with a daily charge of ^2.00. Now if you take St Austell the daily charge is ^2.20 and the monthly permit costs ^34.00. I think FGW and APCOA^▸ (Car parking company used at GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) - controlled stations in the area) need to sort out the inconsistencies in parking charges at the train stations.

[Tim]

All station car parks should be free for rail users. We pay enough in fares.

sorry does not make sense any more than saying "all buses and taxis to stations should be free for rail users we pay enough in fares"