Summer season IC125 Weymouth Bristol

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[BRADNOCK]

There seems to be a general sensors of opinion by local staff that FGW^▸ (First Great Western) are going to run an IC125 set without the buffet car this season in stead of the usual loco hauled stock with a revised time table due to the acceleration problem that the line posses. Has anyone heard any different.

[eightf48544]

Acceleration problems? Please explain, it's a new one on me?

[Timmer]

Could be a real money spinner for FGW^▸ (First Great Western) because they won't have to hire in stock and with the capacity of an HST^▸ (High Speed Train) carry many more passengers so would expect heavy promotion. I would imagine 1st class would be available on a weekend first supplement basis.

[BRADNOCK]

Acceleration problems? Please explain, it's a new one on me?

It has been explained to me that due to the size and weight of the stock it would not be possible to keep to the time table that the 150/158 stock are capable of ?.

[JayMac]

The additional summer loco hauled service was given a very leisurely 2^ hours for the run from BRI^» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) to WEY and the same for the return, with fewer stops than the 150/158 diagrammed services. I see no problem with a slimmed down HST^▸ (High Speed Train), maybe 2+5, keeping to the previous loco-hauled timings.

[John R]

But it will be too much work to slim down a set just for a Saturday. So using a 2+7 set makes sense. As well as acceleration, the increased dwell time caused by slam door stock will slow things down a bit too.

[devon_metro]

2+7 has much better handing than 67 hauling the equivalent of 8 coaches. (class67 similar weight to 4 mk2s)

[inspector_blakey]

Any idea if the supposed issue of running SSL^▸ (Short Swing Link bogies (125)) vs LSL^‡(resolve) bogies over the third rail section from Dorchester to Weymouth is likely to impact on this operation...?

[JayMac]

Sorry blakey, I can't find my anorak.....can you explain 'SSL^▸ (Short Swing Link bogies (125)) vs LSL^‡(resolve) bogies'? ...

[grahame]

Sorry blakey, I can't find my anorak.....can you explain 'SSL^▸ (Short Swing Link bogies (125)) vs LSL^‡(resolve) bogies'? ...

Short Swing Link v Long Swing Link bogies.   The LSL ones are not allowed on the third rail sections as they might foul the third rail, but from what I gathered on a previous thread, (almost) all of the FGW^▸ (First Great Western) fleet is SSL.  Not sure of the technical design issues - Google doesn't give me anything ... the best I came up with was:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=4721.

[dog box]

bogies being SSL^▸ (Short Swing Link bogies (125)) /LSL^‡(resolve) wouldnt be an issue.... as i dont reckon there can be more than about 20 LSL bogied vehicles in service ,a few of these seem to be TGS vehicles whilst others appear to be 1st class

[readytostart]

Any idea if the supposed issue of running SSL^▸ (Short Swing Link bogies (125)) vs LSL^‡(resolve) bogies over the third rail section from Dorchester to Weymouth is likely to impact on this operation...?

Slight tangent but this is the reason XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) can't run their HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) to Bournemouth at the moment as the rakes are mixed SSL/LSL.

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

Xc just can't be bothered

[John R]

But why should they spend the money changing the bogies (assuming they can), when they can put the sets to good use on the South West route (whether of course they do that is another matter, which I suspect is where the "can't be bothered comment "is coming from).

[The Grecian]

That'd be interesting to see. A photo of the HST^▸ (High Speed Train) at Chetnole or Thornford would be amusing - a HST stopping at a small concrete platform on a single line in the middle of nowhere (the villages aren't particularly close to their stations). An HST would also be able to make more use of the 100mph section between Westbury and Castle Cary to keep the timings down.