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« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2010, 17:12:45 » |
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Newport - Reading is ^ 123 as opposed to ^209 Anytime
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« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2010, 17:15:16 » |
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Newport - Reading is ^ 123 as opposed to ^209 Anytime
Which is still a MASSIVE difference between standard and first If the first off peak were maybe 10/20 more than standard - betcha there would be a whole more people in there |
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« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2010, 17:19:11 » |
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Agreed, but the O/P First is ^10 cheaper than the Anytime Standard Class (^133), though Super O/P Standard is only ^51. You might want a little more than a Diet Coke and Nuts for the price difference.
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« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2010, 17:26:28 » |
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Why cannot we have a renationalised railway
Oh please, not this old chestnut again!  Well said, blakey. Our rail network is obviously failing.  Record numbers of passengers, record numbers of trains running. There's only a small percentage of rolling stock over 30 years old - and what is a little old has been, in most cases, tarted up and/or re-engineered. Stations have been improved across the network (some noteable exceptions though - Wakefield Kirkgate!). Customer care has improved immesurably from the days of BR▸ . The network's safety record is also very good. Yes, there's overcrowding in some places, lack of service in others but the network as a whole is a vast improvement on the days of BR. Now.... just these damn fares to sort out! |
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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2010, 00:32:05 » |
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Almost every piece of rolling stock running here in the west was built in BR▸ days (except vomiters...say no more!).
Record numbers of trains running ... has occurred as a gradual process more or less in step with gradually increasing passenger numbers. Look at some old timetables: on lines like Cardiff-Portsmouth the long haul upwards started back in BR days.
My point is simply that to ascribe any improvements to privatisation is to overlook many other factors that have played a part - road congestion, economic growth, new technology etc.
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« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2010, 10:12:51 » |
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Newport - Reading is ^ 123 as opposed to ^209 Anytime
Which is still a MASSIVE difference between standard and first If the first off peak were maybe 10/20 more than standard - betcha there would be a whole more people in there And royally pissing off those who have paid full fare / season ticket holders!!!. Sorry, the upgrade needs to be a reasonablly decent amount on long-distance routes... |
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« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2010, 10:52:59 » |
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Newport - Reading is ^ 123 as opposed to ^209 Anytime
Which is still a MASSIVE difference between standard and first If the first off peak were maybe 10/20 more than standard - betcha there would be a whole more people in there And royally pissing off those who have paid full fare / season ticket holders!!!. Sorry, the upgrade needs to be a reasonablly decent amount on long-distance routes... But if there were decent walk on fares, people who CAN travel off peak would be less likely to pay for an anytime but in return, more people would most likely travel in first thereby offsetting the revenue loss and making standard less busy |
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« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2010, 10:56:12 » |
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Looking after your Premium paying passengers has got to be priority number 1, I feel. Otherwise they'll be lost to Standard too.
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« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2010, 15:26:52 » |
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And royally pissing off those who have paid full fare / season ticket holders!!!.
Sorry, the upgrade needs to be a reasonablly decent amount on long-distance routes...
And how do these full fare paying passengers know what you've paid? No need for you to broadcast it. I agree with FA. Bums on 1st class seats with a cheaper Off-Peak or Super Off Peak 1st class fare makes sense to me. Better than carting around air. You are unlikely to upset many full fare passengers or season holders as they are most likely on peak services. Taking the Bristol to Paddington example; the current 1st class Off Peak return is almost 3 times the cost of the equivalent Standard product. ^154 versus ^59. I'd suggest ^99 Off Peak and ^89 Super Off Peak. Then price the Advances accordingly. Not usually one to advocate yet more ticket types, but in this instance I think there is a strong business case. |
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« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2010, 15:30:45 » |
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I can't disagree with that, and will take it to the next Fares committee meeting....
But I suspect FA was looking for fares even cheaper than that....
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« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2010, 17:01:50 » |
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I can't disagree with that, and will take it to the next Fares committee meeting....
But I suspect FA was looking for fares even cheaper than that....
Actually those sound perfectly reasonable compared to the standard fare |
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« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2010, 17:39:28 » |
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This thread has now diverged well away from its original subject of "split tickets". I'm inclined to have a go and see if I can split it out into separate subjects dealing with cheaper off-peak first class fares and possibly a bit of a debate about rail nationalization or otherwise as well. Any objections? If not, wish me luck, unweaving the different interlocking threads of discussion could prove tricky...  |
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« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2010, 20:15:51 » |
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If First Class was full during the middle of the day, would you pay a premium to travel in it?
One thing I like about FC‡ is the fact that I have the space to stretch out and more often than not do not have people snooping on what I am doing.
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« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2010, 20:21:51 » |
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Happy to see the thread split. Makes sense to me to keep this current thread for 'Split Fares' info only. Perhaps a sticky as well?
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« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2010, 21:28:28 » |
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If First Class was full during the middle of the day, would you pay a premium to travel in it?
One thing I like about FC‡ is the fact that I have the space to stretch out and more often than not do not have people snooping on what I am doing.
Highly unlikely it would be full even with proper off peak fares And yes I would - even 1/4 or 1/2 a first class table is better than a standard airline seat if you need to get stuff done Remember - I was always told First does not guarantee a table to yourself |
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