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Author Topic: Weymouth - summer weekend loco-hauled services - 2010  (Read 25374 times)
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« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2010, 19:54:00 »

These sorts of rumours really do the rounds every year, don't they!? Every year it's the last time these trains will operate with loco haulage, it'll be DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) from now on, etc etc.

As far as I'm aware FGW (First Great Western) only has a couple of the cascaded LM (London Midland - recent franchise) 150s at the moment. I'd be surprised with only 4 or 5 weeks to go this year whether any change would be made - is there a contract in place with DBS» (Deutsch Bahn Schenker - UK (United Kingdom) website) to run these trains until September, or is the arrangement more ad hoc?

You'll always find lots of "experts" at the lineside who are more than happy to dispense their "wit and wisdom" to anyone who'll listen (and often to those who are trying not to as well!) but my guess would be in this case that they're wrong, at least for this summer. I'm happy to be corrected though by anyone with more reliable inside information.
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« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2010, 21:28:34 »

With only a few more weekends left to run until the last service on the 4th of September, I would expect the loco hauled service to continue its Saturday treck down to the seaside. After that who knows?
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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2010, 08:47:34 »

Somewhat more than rumour ?? - a statement from an FGW (First Great Western) representative in March was that it would start loco hauled but switch to units as they became available - see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=5258.msg64162#msg64162 .   But that may be out of date (with delays to the cascade) and there are times (especially with some FGW representatives, I'm afraid) where I feel we're told half a story, or a story with a slant, in order to further First's aims. 
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« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2010, 20:30:18 »

arent the 15* replacing the 14* leaving no extra rolling stock?
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« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2010, 21:01:53 »

Somewhat more than rumour ?? - a statement from an FGW (First Great Western) representative in March was that it would start loco hauled but switch to units as they became available - see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=5258.msg64162#msg64162 .   But that may be out of date (with delays to the cascade) and there are times (especially with some FGW representatives, I'm afraid) where I feel we're told half a story, or a story with a slant, in order to further First's aims. 

Further to grahame's post, I can confirm that the loco-hauled 'bucket and spade special' trains will continue, in the absence of any suitable cascaded DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) to use instead - for the reasons given in the post to which grahame gave a link.

My source for this update is Julian Crow, FGW's General Manager, West of England, at the Heart of Wessex meeting in Yeovil on Friday 30 July, which both Lee and I attended.

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« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2010, 22:28:33 »

arent the 15* replacing the 14* leaving no extra rolling stock?

Not quite, things are never that simple. The incoming 150s are replacing the 7? x 142s on loan from Northern,the  5 x 150s on loan from ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))), the single 158 on daily loan from SWT (South West Trains) and the two sets of LHCS (Locomotive Hauled Coaching Stock) used in the Bristol area. 

There is nearly the same number of carriages; maybe a couple less overall but changed diagramming will cancel that out.

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« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2010, 22:45:20 »

In an ideal world, of course, the loco-hauled sets would be replaced with HSTs (High Speed Train) ...  Wink
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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2010, 18:54:50 »

Thanks guys for the updated info'.

Shame about the loss of the Mk 3's as the seats with leg room are far more comfortable than a 150. Although if the earlier poster's statement about broken air-con is correct then the less good seats on a 150. but with open air vents, is slightly preferable to a Mk 3 without working air con if it is a hot day.
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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2010, 20:29:12 »

Mk 2s on the Weymouth loco hauled.
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« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2010, 18:03:57 »

57 haulage on the last loco hauled this year ?
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« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2010, 18:27:09 »

Welcome to the Coffee Shop forum, penmill!  Smiley

I'm sorry, I don't have an answer to your question - but I'm sure there are other members here who will know!  Wink
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« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2010, 19:11:47 »

I couldn't possibly comment.
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« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2010, 20:42:59 »

... but you just did?
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« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2010, 20:49:01 »

... but you just did?

For the 57,604th time Chris, stop trying to be smart...  Lips sealed
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« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2010, 20:52:12 »

57005 lmao?
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