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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2010, 22:58:30 »

Hi Chris.. There were no swear words.. I'm just too polite for that  Smiley

And bignosemac.. I did think that but I never know their e-mail address when I need it as I know it's ok to send lots and lots of letters and words to them that way.. I was thinking I must look it up but instead I removed a few words and off it went on it's merry way to "standard reply land"... I'm not cynical.. no..  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2010, 23:00:05 »

I have been told it is Control Centre of the Future Smiley

Well, if it can't cope with a vehicle bumping into a bridge, it doesn't appear to have much of a future ...  Roll Eyes Shocked
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2010, 23:01:39 »

Apparently they been having problems with it long before that..Chris, computers go wrong sometimes, it's one of those things..
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2010, 23:06:36 »

But I bet computers don't decide how many people they are going to cram onto a train? oh I do hope not... Wink
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2010, 23:07:53 »

Aha no..that would be our controller at Swindon
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2010, 23:14:54 »

Apparently they been having problems with it long before that..Chris, computers go wrong sometimes, it's one of those things..

I know, Ollie - but that doesn't particularly inspire one with any confidence in it ...  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2010, 23:17:56 »

It's not like it affected train running, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2010, 23:20:32 »

But it did affect train running? well my train anyway..
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2010, 23:23:16 »

But it did affect train running? well my train anyway..
I'm on about the failure of CCF - rather than bridge bash.
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2010, 23:27:10 »

But it did affect train running? well my train anyway..
I'm on about the failure of CCF - rather than bridge bash.
Ok cool.. well since I think (I think) that is the system that gives us mere mortals (passengers/customers) information and since my train driver tried his hardest then the odd CCF failure is ok..

However I am a bit disappointed that my train driver didn't appear to know the conditions that his cattle/passengers were being transported in.. Or I think he'd have apologised.. Not his fault obviously..  But someone should have told him (CCF maybe? Wink)
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2010, 23:32:16 »

Again no, as CCF is just something stations can use to see where a train is. Won't have any impact on passengers.
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2010, 23:37:20 »

There was a bridge bash on a double amber bridge (?) somewhere on the mainline between PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) and SLO
Upstairs as per normal failed to tell us where, and made some excuse about the CCF failing so they couldn't tell us anything.

Don't forget the information chain, so any station on the FGW (First Great Western) network will be relying on information to come through from Swindon Control.
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2010, 02:05:41 »

Again no, as CCF is just something stations can use to see where a train is. Won't have any impact on passengers.

P2 was working fine. P2 is the older, cheaper, version of CCF.

There was a bridge bash on a double amber bridge (?) somewhere on the mainline between PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) and SLO
Upstairs as per normal failed to tell us where, and made some excuse about the CCF failing so they couldn't tell us anything.

Don't forget the information chain, so any station on the FGW (First Great Western) network will be relying on information to come through from Swindon Control.

But at PAD all the info comes from NR» (Network Rail - home page) upstairs, well supposed to anyway. I suspect they get it all from swindon, goes in one ear and out the other!!!
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2010, 14:41:57 »

A perfect example of why splitting the railway doesn't work.
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2010, 20:07:55 »

I wonder about this CCF stuff. I've heard previously that there is a live system which can show trains in real time on maps, this is part of Control Centre (of the) Future, but this is apparently very expensive to licence and is generally only used in signalling centres, and TOC (Train Operating Company) control rooms.

However there is also a 'Contact Centre LDB' system. The difference being that unlike the public LDBs it can be used to look back at earlier information, not just the 2 hour window the public sees, and also shows timing points other than stations, train IDs etc.  This is available at most stations AFAIAA.  It requires a login and pasword, but otherwise the URLs are as for the public system with CCLDB replacing LDB, IYSWIM.

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